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This week’s Question of the Week was, “Under what circumstances do truck camper owners unload their truck camper in the field?”  This question was suggested by Truck Camper Magazine reader, Skip Matties.

Skip’s question triggered a huge reader response with a wide range of answers.  Many folks explain that they unload when they know they’ll be at a formal campsite for more than a few days.  Others reveal that they never, ever unload.

And the revelations don’t stop there.  One guy actually says he once unloaded for meatloaf.  Another says he only unloads when it’s time to upgrade campers.  You can’t make this stuff up folks.  This is the real deal.

“The only time we take the camper off the truck is when we need to take the truck in for maintenance or if there is an area we want to visit that the camper won’t fit like Custer State Park in South Dakota and Baxter State Park in Maine.  We are so used to having everything with us at all times that we feel deprived when we don’t have the camper.” – Larry Routt, 2005 Ford F-350, 2004 Lance 820

“If we stay someplace for more than two days we take the camper off.  It only takes ten minutes to unload.” – Jeffrey Baker, 2004 Ford F250, 2000 Lance 820

“We had a two week stay in South Carolina; one hour south of Charleston, and two hours north of Savannah, Georgia.  For local errands of three to four miles, which included the grocery store, we used bicycles.  We took the camper off to make trips to Charleston and Savannah.” – Patrick Brolley, 2015 Ram 3500, 2016 Cirrus 800

“Anytime we stay multiple nights we take the camper off.  The few things that would make us keep the camper on the truck are weather, security of the camper, gear left behind, and the chance we might find a better place to stay while out exploring.” – Eddie Hayden, 2005 Dodge, 2013 Palomino SS-1251

“I have never unloaded in the field.  I do not even have the jacks on the camper to save weight, improve visibility, and reduce risk of damage to the jacks.  We do a lot of National Forest unimproved roads.  There have been a few times I would have liked to have removed the camper, like when I stayed at a relative’s house for several weeks.  I am looking forward to others responses to see if I want to change my pattern.” – Bill Peters, 2013 Chevy Silverado 1500, 2013 Four Wheel Camper Hawk

“Great question.  We have owned a truck camper for several years and I can say, without exception, that we have never unloaded while in the field.  After some thought, the only thing that would change that for us would be a major repair that required unobstructed access to the truck.  We even remove the jacks for long trips for weight, wind drag, clearance, obstructions, etc.” – Tom Elliott, 2007 Ram 2500, 1999 Lance 835 Lite

“If we are sightseeing we like to keep the camper with us because it has everything; our clothing, camera, hiking stuff, food, and the bathroom.  If we are staying one place for a week or more, and when we are pulling my fishing boat, which is often, then it is nice that I can launch without disturbing my wife in the mornings.  We have had to take it off to go some places like across Glacier National Park and on some underdeveloped roads.” – Charles Book, 1999 Ford F350, 2001 Lance 1121

“We unload our camper anytime we go camping to have use of the truck.  We carry kayaks on top of the camper, and it is much easier to get them off and on with the camper on the ground.  Then we can haul them in the back of the truck to the lake or river.

If we don’t have the boats, we can use the truck to go explore backroads, without the size and weight of the camper.  If we are road trippin’ and only stopping at a place for overnight, then we don’t unload it.  It only takes ten to fifteen minutes with the electric jacks, which is less time than it takes people with a camp trailer to unhitch and level theirs!” – Philip Davidson, 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500, 2001 Lance 1010

“We have always wanted to drop the camper and explore the local areas.  However, with our old camper and manual jacks we have found it to be very impractical.  So, in short, we have never dropped the camper in a campsite, but that’s about to change.

During the Texas Truck Camper Rally we looked at a new Lance 1172 and toured a new friend’s 1172.  We couldn’t believe how roomy and stable it felt off the truck.  Now we have many plans formulating about where to go exploring after we figure out how to pay for all these new expensive toys.” – Scott Vallie, 2008 Dodge 2500, 2003 Sun Lite 1055

“When my dad passed away out of state, I was doing a lot of state-to-state travels between Virginia, West Virginia, and Ohio.  The camper was a blessing.  I was able to drop it there with a 10’ x 7’ x 6’ box trailer I towed.  I saved on gas traveling every few weeks to take care of business, and stayed in our camper instead of an empty house.  The box trailer served as a portable, dry, lockable garage for collecting various furniture and garage tools, etc., that I was relocating.

The truck handled everything well and I had shore power available as it was winter in Ohio’s snow belt.  I learned a lot about cold weather camping, but it was always comfortable.  When I was done with these executor duties, the camper and box trailer made the mountainous return trip without a hiccup.

Otherwise, I like to leave the camper on truck.  I have a four-foot Torklift SuperHitch extension that I use for trailer towing, and plan to get a receiver mounted bike carrier to use my dual-sport MC for the running/exploring purposes.” – Travis Shull, 2006 Dodge 3500, 2015 CampLite 9.6S

“I unload every time that we go camping.  This frees up the truck to launch the boat and run errands.  However, when traveling, we do not unload unless we are stopping for more than a couple of nights.” – Tom Wilson, 2015 Chevy 3500, 2015 Adventurer 89RB

“We never unloaded our camper in the field.  Our camper is difficult to load and unload as there is very little room for error between the wheel wells.  Normally we load the camper in April and it will remain on the truck until the first week in November.

We often attend weekend events, or take short trips without bringing or towing one of our two Jeeps.  We provision the camper with necessities so we do not have to move from the campsite on these brief trips.  For our annual extend trip to Colorado, we tow our Jeep Wrangler so we may enjoy the many off-road adventures.

We don’t enjoy the challenges of loading or unloading the camper!” – Warne Todd, 2000 Ford F350, 2005 Lance 981

“We never unload in the field, or haven’t in the five years we’ve had the camper.  I could see the benefits of it for some, but our camper has manual jacks, one of which is slightly bent.  We’ve had the camper shift while on the jacks (over winter, before we got the truck), which was a major pain.

An unload/load cycle takes the better part of an hour for us and causes us (mostly me) a lot of stress.  Also, we don’t have an air conditioner in our camper so leaving it behind only saves some fuel for the truck.” – Melissa Malejko, 2002 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, 1981 Okanagan

“Traveling on vacations, we almost always keep the camper on the truck and generally never go on dirt roads.  There were a few times, like in the dirt roads of the Bighorn Mountains, that I wished I had left the camper back at the campground.  I would have more thoroughly enjoyed the dirt roads.

If we are driving gravel roads, I have to worry about tree branches, potholes, and steep grades.  With the camper off the truck, I can enjoy gravel roads better.  I also remove the camper on our fishing trips to make it more convenient for boat launching and slippery boat launches.

When we went to Disney, we unhooked so we could sightsee better for about ten days around Los Angeles.  I think the camper is safer in a campground rather than a parking lot somewhere.” – Thomas Bender, 2011 Ford F250, 2009 Sun Valley Apache Chief 8.65WS

“In the past, if we were staying in one place for at least five days, we would unload the camper.  But we found ourselves wishing we had the camper to eat lunch, relax, grab a cold drink, etc.  So now we keep it on the truck 99 percent of the time.” – Dave and Cheryl Barker, 2014 Ram 3500, 2015 Northstar 850SC

“There is no set guideline that we use.  We mostly dry camp, so hookups are a non-player.  That said, we have never taken the camper off the truck while boondocking.  On the east coast, we pull a Jeep Wrangler.  On the west coast, we trailer and use our side-by-side.

The main requirement for us to consider to remove the camper is that we must be in a developed campsite.  This can be either a forest service campground or a private campground.  My wife and I just feel that our camper is safer sitting in that environment verses in the middle of the desert or mountains.

What is never a factor for us is the time or difficulty in removing or putting the camper back on the truck.  Generally, if our truck moves, it has the camper on it.” – Rollie Thurston, 2004 Ford F350, 2005 Alpenlite Santa Fe 1100

“We usually unload our camper if we are going to stay in a place for more than a couple days.  However, if we are near our children and they have a spare vehicle, or we can fit in with them going places, we will leave our camper on.

Most of our traveling is road trips, so we rarely stay in one place for too long.  Last winter we went down to Gulf Shores, Alabama for a couple weeks.  Naturally we took the camper off so that we could have the freedom to come and go at will.” – Allen Brummel, 2008 Dodge Ram 1500, 2016 Northstar 650SC

“I always disconnect the tie-downs and level the camper.  I always unload if I stay for more than one night.  I like having the truck available to explore.” – Bob Devantery, 2014 GMC 3500, 2012 Lance 1050

“Four years ago we had to make a decision of fixed cell or removable cell on our Toyota Hilux.  This was our question.  We wanted a removable cell, of course.  But then we thought, how many times were we going to put on and remove the cell off the vehicle?

Finally, we decided that we should get a fixed cell on the vehicle.  We go everywhere with it on road and off-road.  It has been a great success, after traveling more than 120,000 kilometers.

It is not a super cell with space, but it is comfortable and all the necessities for life are on board.  I have 120 liters of fresh water, cook and heat with diesel, have hot water for the shower, a refrigerator, Thetford cassette, and solar panels.” – Frederic Amorós, 2011 Toyota Hilux, 2011 PSI-AZALAÏ Fixed Cell from France

“Presently, I am a tent camper fisherman with a boat.  I usually stay at state parks with bodies of water.  You cannot keep your boat in the water overnight.  That means in and out trailering everyday to go fishing.

My wife and I are looking into a Class C camper that can tow a boat.  The problem with the Class C is breaking down camp twice a day to fish with the boat.  Having a truck camper would solve a lot of these problems.  The camper is removed on site and hooked up and the truck would be free to pull the boat to the dock or go adventuring for the day.  I have many questions about this theory that experienced truck campers could answer, but I think a truck camper rig is my best option.” – Pat Trunda, no truck yet, no camper yet

“When we stay for more than three or four nights in one area we will remove the camper from the truck so that we can tour the surrounding areas more easily.  Two criteria are vital as we are still learning about the camper; level ground for ease of reloading, and interesting sights that we can drive to.” – Greg Ruebusch, 2001 Silverado 2500HD, 2015 Northern Lite 8-11

“We don’t have any problems with unloading and loading our camper.  If we are just doing an overnight, it stays on the camper since it is usually en route to a destination or home.  If we are on a weekend trip just for relaxing at a state park, we leave the camper on the truck.  On a longer trip where we have multiple locations we are going to stay at, we may unload to explore.

We try to get gas and groceries before we stop at a campsite.  We make the decision about whether or not to unload before we set up at the campsite.  Our biggest obstacle with the on/off is remembering to move the license plate.” – Pam Conner, 2015 Ford F350, 2015 Arctic Fox 1150

“We only unload camper if we have a day outing on a road that is difficult to travel on, or if we have full hookups and we are staying more than three days.  We also encountered a golf course in Oregon that would not allow a RVs in their parking lot.  We don’t golf, but they have a fantastic restaurant and the best meat loaf .” – Greg Gaser, 2014 Ford F350, 2017 Lance 1172

Editor’s Note: Unloading for meatloaf?  Can’t say we’ve heard that one before.  That must be some darn good meatloaf!

“We usually unload if we’re spending more than three nights in one place just for the convenience and economy when chasing around the area.” – Mike Herzfeldt, 2011 Silverado 3500, 2016 Host Mammoth

“We unload the camper almost always.  The only exception would be when we are traveling, get in late, plan on leaving early in the morning, and want to make a lot of miles on the road.” – PJ Sikorsky, 2011 Ford F250, 2010 Northstar 800C

“This is a simple question, at least for us.  If we’re going to be anywhere for more than a night, we unload the camper, jump in the truck, and tour the area.  We are free from our heavy payload.  We didn’t spend a small fortune on a truck and camper to travel long distances just to sit in collapsible lawn chairs on an outdoor rug!

We do enjoy just sitting sometimes, but for the most part traveling means getting out of your camper, getting out of the campground, and visiting the local area.  Meeting new people inside the campground can be, shall we say, interesting, and there’s plenty of time to do just that while we load and unload the camper.

We use our camper, for the most part, as a place to sleep, economically.  This is what we do now.  In the future, I’m sure things will change.  They always do!  Happy Trails!” – Dan Daddieco, 2015 Ram 3500, 2015 Eagle Cap 1165

“Easy.  If we’re towing the boat, we drop the camper so we can launch and retrieve the boat.  If it’s a simple overnight and there is no exploring to do, we do not unload.  If it’s a weekend, there is always some exploring to do, so we unload” – Mike Nervik, 2001 Chev 3500, 2004 Eagle Cap 1150

“Our general rule is, if we are somewhere more than one night, off it comes.  That gives us the freedom to explore or run errands.  Loading or unloading is a twenty minute process, with a few scuff marks to show the practice we’ve had with it.  Then there are always exceptions.” – Lou Pomerville, 2008 Silverado K3500HD, 2008 Snowriver 102RK

“We never unload.  We tow a Jeep or a trailer with a motorcycle trike.  We bought the Lance with a side door so we could tow and access the camper without having to unhook the toad.  It is too much work to unload and reload the camper.” – Anne Adams, 2005 Ford F350, 2011 Lance 1191

“Unless I am in a travel mode and this is just an overnight stop and rolling in the morning, I unload.  With Rieco-Titan electric jacks and Torklift Fastguns, it’s just too quick and simple not to.

I can go out to eat, visit friends, or see the sights without a truck camper in the bed of my truck.  It allows me to drive the residential surface streets with their low hanging limbs.  Then, there’s the additional bonus of loading and unloading practice.  More often than not I can stab my truck camper on first go and not even make a minor correction.

Here’s a tip on how I learned to do it.  Take a length of black electrical tape and attach it center as measured on the lower leading edge of the truck camper.  Run the tape vertically up to the window if you have one or up to the beginning of the curve.  Now load your truck camper, but do not lower it completely onto the bed of the truck.  After loading, pull straight forward until you have cleared the truck camper box.  Have a helper mark or place a piece of electrical tape in the back window of the truck centered on the tape you put on the truck camper as viewed from the driver’s seat in your rear view mirror.  This now becomes your guide.  With a bit of practice you will begin to stab it the first time, every time.” – Don Pryor, 2015 F350, 2008 Arctic Fox 1150

“We just did a trip to Quartzsite, Arizona.  We were there for two weeks and unloaded the camper.  We also had a small ATV trailer with two ATVs.  The Torklift Fastguns buckles do help a lot.  Normally we leave the camper on, but we wanted to do a lot of exploring while there.” – Jim Furubotten, 2006 Ford F350, 2014 Northern Lite 10-2 CDSE

“I never unload in the field.  We tow a Jeep or motorcycles.” – Tom Andersen, 2006 Ram 3500, 2003 Lance 1121

“Last fall we attended a covered bridge festival in Ashtibula County, Ohio.  We left our old truck camper at a nearby campground and toured with just the truck.  Some of the eighteen bridges had a 9’ 6” clearance.  Then we went to Holmes county and set the truck camper off and ran around the narrow county roads to the Amish shops and bakeries for a couple of days.

Normally, we travel to a different spot each night and leave the truck camper on the truck.  We also own a fifth wheel that we take to rallies when we spend five days at the same place.” – Charlie Wade, 2016 Dodge 3500, 2016 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CDSE

“I never unload the camper in the field.  I am always at or near the GVWR for the Tacoma, so I never carry the 98 pound set of jacks.  Even if I had the jacks, it’s too much work to take the camper off and on.  It’s much easier to just lower the top and drive away.  I rarely use hookups and we don’t have a lot of gear to unpack and repack. It takes about five minutes for me to be ready to go.” – Gary Scott, 2015 Toyota Tacoma, 2014 Four Wheel Camper Eagle

“We unload anytime we are going to be in an area more than a day to two.  This decision is based on what we intend to do in the area, what we think the parking or driving conditions might be in that area, and how level the campsite is.  We have been in a few situations where unloading just to get the camper level was essential.  You can only carry so many leveling blocks.  Also, the apparent campground security comes in to play.  If we don’t feel comfortable leaving the camper in an area, then we don’t unload.” – Steve Gomez, 2014 Ford F350, 2015 Host Mammoth

“Although we have Torklift Fastguns and remote jacks, we have not unloaded the camper.  We rarely spend more than two nights at a campground.  So far, we have used the camper over 100 nights a year, and about 45,000 miles.” – Tom Scholtens, 2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, 2013 Bigfoot 25C10.4

“We don’t.  We leave the jacks at home.  It may be stupid, but that’s my husband’s choice.  We’ll take the camper off when the truck dies, I guess.  We don’t stay most places more than two days, usually just overnight.  When we do stay longer, we’re with family and they provide run around vehicles for our extended stays.” – Cheryl Nelson, 2004 Chevy 3500, 1989/90 Shadow Cruiser 9.5

“We have a truck camper so that we can tow a boat, hunting rig, trailer, etc.  When we go fishing for a weekend, I unload because I do not back the truck down the ramp to put the boat in the water with the camper on the truck.  I don’t trust the emergency break alone.  Also, if we want take a quick trip to town (quilt shopping, more bait, food, etc,) we do not have to make everything road ready.

Having the Happijac electric jacks with the swing-out brackets for the dually makes it easy to unload and load (30 minutes for either).  It also makes it easier to get in and out of the camper.  The folding steps with the Snowriver makes for a stable entry for us and our dogs.” – Rod Fosback, 1999 Ford F350, 2008 Snowriver 108DS

“Usually we unload the camper as we tow a boat with the truck.  We don’t like breaking camp every time we want to launch the boat.  Also, it is easier to park the truck without the camper on it.  When we get out west this year we won’t be taking the boat, so we may leave it on.” – Ross Vlieger, 2015 GMC 3500, 2015 Lance 992

“With the pop-top there is no need to unload the camper.  With a three-quarter ton four wheel drive mega cab Longhorn Ram diesel, you don’t even notice the extra 1,200 pounds.” – Mike Ashworth, 2011 Ram, 1989 Jayco (remodeled)

“It’s a lot like packing; it all depends on the trip.  Usually, if we will be doing any boat launching, sight seeing, and have full hookups, the camper comes off.  We rarely travel without a boat, but it has happened a few times.

We spent a couple of days at the coast without boat and hookups, and left it on.  We’ve stayed in our kid’s front yard, again without the boat, with electricity only, and left it on. We took a five day fishing trip around the Cascade Lakes where we found a quiet, no hook-up campsite.  We left the camper on the truck.  Driving between base camp and our chosen fishing lake of the day helped keep the camper batteries charged.” – Diane Larsen, 2012 Ford F350, 2007 S&S Montana Ponderosa 8.5

“If we stay for more than one night, we almost always take the camper off the truck to explore the area, put in and take out the boat, etc.  If we are staying in a campground for a couple of days or more, we typically setup the awning room and store some items like a cooler, lawn chairs, and hitch extension under the side of the truck camper.

Additionally, we prefer the camper be as close to ground level as possible making it easier for our family and our dog to access.  Otherwise I have to setup the aluminum scissor steps and put the jacks down for stability when we leave it on the truck.” – Chris Folta, 2012 Dodge Ram 3500, 2012 Eagle Cap 995

“We don’t unload our camper.  If we really have to go somewhere, we unhook.  It doesn’t take us very long to unhook.  We are thinking about unloading the camper in the future if we stay somewhere longer than three days, but we haven’t been able to do that yet.  We’ll have to wait until we retire for those longer trips!” – Carol Sudweeks, 2014 Chevy Silverado 1500, 2006 Lance 815

“My camping trips are planned ahead of time so I know in advance if I am unloading or not.  On one of our annual trips we unload for four days at one campground to use the truck for going to town and shopping.  At the next campground, we unload for ten days to use the truck for launching boats and fishing.

For other trips it depends on if we can beach the boat near enough to recharge batteries.  If so, the camper stays on.  Otherwise we unload the camper to make trailering the boat easier.” – Henry Nelsen, 2007 Toyota Tundra, 2012 Northstar Liberty

“Although it only takes about 20 to 25 minutes by myself, having hydraulic jacks as opposed to electric always causes my wife concern and she nicely lets me know it. Consequently I almost never unload, even though it would be nice to have the truck for occasional excursions.

We would need to be some place where running out of supplies and intending to stay longer would overcome her concern, but even then we’d most likely just leave a couple of chairs and a cheap tent and go to town with the camper on.  Maybe some day when I add solar to keep the battery up and get electric jacks, it will ease her mind and we can unload once in a while.” – David Pracht, 2015 GMC Sierra K3500, 1987 Lance LC900

“I was in Big Bend National Park and took it off because of rock and roll.  I went into the back county and it was really rough.” – David Garrelts, 2000 Ford F250, 2005 Lance 845

“I never have unloaded any of my campers in the field.  Because of the poor jacks that were on my old Lance 880, it was always a harry experience just taking it off on my concrete floor shop.

My new 1050S has remained on my truck for two years since I bought it.  But a month ago I had to unload it to get some transmission work done, and what an easy sweet setup.  It was no problem with these new electric jacks.  Easy sleazy.  So maybe I will take it off someday as long as it’s very level and hard ground, but probably not.

If I’m going away for awhile I tow my Wrangler or take the Harley, so I don’t ever really need my truck for exploring.” – Scott Barker, 1999 Dodge 3500, 2015 Lance 1050S

“I never off load.  I can’t really tell if the camper is off or on.  It’s nice to have everything with me all the time.” – Bill Harrington, 2004 Ford F350, 1997 Sportsman

“Generally, I do not unload.  First, because my traveling consists of slow exploring travel days on backroads, moving on frequently.  I only stay longer in one place to either visit with friends, in which case we use their cars, or because I am not feeling great and want to rest.  So, I don’t want to mess with unloading.

However, when I am out mainly to utilize bike trails in one area, then I do unload.  I remove my trike carrier from the truck, unload the camper (slow process for me as I don’t have electric jacks), and then replace the trike carrier.  This way each day I can head out to another bike trailhead and explore, returning each night to my camper.  I cycle with my dog so am not concerned about leaving the camper.

I live in Ontario which has many bike trail networks, so camping in one carefully chosen location allows me to access to many trails within a 30 to 40 minute drive from where I am camping.  When I am traveling I always have my trike along, but often drive past trail heads that I would love to ride.  However, if there is no nearby campground, I most often miss out on that trail.  By unloading when my trip’s purpose is to ride, I can cycle longer into the day not worried about reloading the trike and then setting out tired to try to find a camping spot.

If I had electric jacks I might remove the camper more often.  But I travel alone and it’s much more complicated to reload without a spotter.  Generally, it’s not worth it to me.  I don’t find it inconvenient to break camp.  I also usually use my trike to shop and run errands, so I don’t need to break camp.” – Michele McLeod, 2013 Ford 150, 2000 Travel Hawk 9.5

“If we wish to explore an area of rough terrain, perhaps to go four-wheeling, we take it off.  Otherwise it tends to stay on the truck regardless of length of stay.  We seldom stay in one place longer than four or five days.” – Arn Chamberlain, 2004 Palomino Maverick 8801

“We purchased the truck and camper last year and, so far, I’ve not had the courage to remove the camper from the truck.  We tow a Jeep for use in traveling to sightsee or shop.  I know I must take the camper off the truck at some point.  Taking it off is not the problem.  Putting it back on is causing the concern!” – Steve Wright, 2015 Ram 3500, 2015 Lance 1172

Editor: Take a day and go to an open and level parking lot and practice taking the camper on and off until you feel more comfortable with the process.  Fully expect to get frustrated at first.  After a few times of loading and unloading, it gets faster and easier.  Soon the concern will give way to confidence.

“It depends upon the campsite and what I’m doing.  Normally, it stays on.  I’m by myself and it’s a PITA to load/unload by getting the alignment setup correctly.  Also, it’s unloading the side bins each time.

If I need the truck to go somewhere and I’m camping for a period of time, I’ll off-load.  I spent more than three months at the “Q” – Quartzsite, Arizona – and figured every seven days I needed to do a dump and fill.  I left it on the truck and just drove over most of the time.  When I had the ACE Buggy, I’d use that for local trips which allowed me to keep the camper and truck loaded.

So, I keep it loaded unless there’s a reason or need to unload.  I just have to watch that first step in the morning.” – Frank Poole, 2016 Ram 5500HD, 2016 Arctic Fox 990

“Whether we drop or not depends on the situation at the time.  When we travel, we try to see all we can.  If reasonable transportation is available, we take that route and keep the camper loaded.  If not, we drop the camper and go for it.

We also like to take tour buses whenever available, which we have found to be the best way to see more.  If we are in a spot we want to stay at and not roam around, then naturally we keep the camper loaded.  But in all cases, we lower the jacks enough to help stabilize the camper so it doesn’t rock and roll when we’re inside.” – Eddie Henry, 2014 Ram 2500, 2014 Northstar 850SC

“We have visited many locations which are not conducive to driving or parking a dually, long-bed, crew cab truck.  For these reasons we do not unload when traveling.  Rather we tow a two door Jeep for local travel.” – Tony Coyne, 2105 Silverado 3500, 2016 Arctic Fox 1140

“With the Torklift International Fastgun turnbuckles, laser backup aid in loading, and Rieco-Titan remote-control jacks, it is easy to unload and reload quickly.  I unload the Arctic Fox if I stay for two nights or more to see the sites or participate in an event.

Since I normally release the turnbuckles and level the camper with the remote electric jacks when I stop at night, it is then easy to off-load the camper from the truck and reload.  I do not normally unload the camper if I am at a rally because usually all events are done at the campgrounds.

I also do not off-load the camper unless I am at a federal, state, commercial, or private campground for fear it might be vandalized or worse, go missing.” – Cliff Cizan, 2010 Ram 3500, 2013 Arctic Fox 1150

“Typically, we unload when staying more than one night to allow us to move around easier.  When staying just for an overnight, we tend to leave it on the truck.” – Steve Fisher, 2014 GMC 3500, 2014 Chalet DS116

“I unload the Lance only when necessary.  I traveled to the northeast United States and Canadian Maritimes for three months last summer.  I unloaded the Lance four times.  One time I had to unload so I could wash a very dirty truck.  I had to unload when visiting Niagara Falls because of parking issues.  Two times I needed the truck to carry my kayak to the launch area because it was too far from the campsite.

I always disconnect the turnbuckles and extend the supports to level the Lance.  Usually, after leveling, the Lance is still resting on the truck bed and very stable.

This year I will be celebrating my 70th birthday taking four plus months to visit Alaska traveling through Alberta, British Columbia and Yukon Territory to get there and back.

I will trailer a CanAm Spyder and my kayak.  My longest stops will be five days.  Most will be two to three days.  Therefore, unless absolutely necessary, I will not unload the Lance.

Skip does highlight one main reason to unload, which is exploring the local area.  I am fortunate that I can explore using the Spyder.  Weather would be a deciding factor for me, specifically heavy rain.  But, then again, if the rain is too heavy, who wants to explore anyway?  I am looking forward to the other responses.” – Jim Salyerds, 2011 Ford F350, 2015 Lance 1050S

“When traveling and only spending one or two nights at a location, I keep the camper on the truck.  When I am staying in one location for a week or two, I take the camper off and use the truck to sightsee.  I especially do this when I am in a location that lends itself to off-road travel, such as Death Valley National Park.  I love to explore the back country.  The only real time consuming thing is changing tire pressure on the truck from haul to travel mode.” – Neal Williams, 1996 Ford F350, 2000 Bigfoot 2500

“When I was a kid and the family was travel trailer camping near June Lake in the Sierra Nevadas, I recall a truck camper leaving his site for a day’s adventure.  He left some camp chairs and other accouterments, but that didn’t stop another gentleman from pulling in and begin to set up camp.  Upon the return of the site’s rightful owner there was a bit of a kerfuffle.  I distinctly recall my dad saying, “That’s why I like the trailer.”  I was then, as I am now, enamored with the idea of a camper in the box of a pickup and wasn’t swayed.

Our family of three humans and one canine took an extensive trip along the California coast and points north several years ago.  While camping in Richmond, British Columbia and visiting friends in nearby Vancouver, I detached the camper.  I reasoned that the congested city traffic would be too much to bear.  On another trip, while visiting family on the shores of Lake Tahoe and staying at a commercial site, I detached for similar reasons.

My experience was that that while the truck felt more nimble, its wheelbase didn’t shrink and it’s suspension felt stiffer.  A lot of our stuff was either left behind or inconveniently moved into the cab.  When the dog couldn’t accompany us, he was left in the truck, briefly, with obviously less room to roam.

I have since come to the conclusion that the convenience of a truck camper, while camping, is not that it can be dismounted on site, but that it’s no different than driving my truck and camper when I want to go on an errand or to see the local sights.  Of course, a site occupied sign might be recommended.” – Mark Obert, 1999 Ford F250SD, 1999 Lance 920

“I never unload the camper.  It is on the truck full time.  The only reason I would ever unload was for service or to sell it.” – Neal Haymore, 1990 Ford F250, 1997 Four Wheel Camper Grandby

“We have not made our first trip out yet, but we did decide early on in our planning that we would keep the camper loaded at all times.  As a result of that choice, we will be towing our 2015 Jeep Cherokee behind us everywhere we go.  This allows us to base camp the truck and camper and to use the Jeep to do all the sightseeing and errands.

Additionally, the Jeep will be used as a storage trailer to haul what won’t fit easily in the truck and camper and to keep us under our GVWR.  I will be retiring on June 1st so we will see how the planning works out.” – Jon Hancock, 2015 Ram 3500, 2016 Northern Lite 10-2EX CDSE

“We are full-timers going on year two of traveling and living in our truck camper.  We unload the camper pretty much any time that we are staying in one place for more than two nights.  If we are near a town, we usually want the truck to run errands and shop.  If we are in a more remote area, we generally want to go exploring the back roads which is easier to do without the camper on board.  The more often you load and unload the camper, the better you get at it.  With me lining him up initially, my husband can usually back the truck under the camper on the first try.

Grocery shopping with the camper on the truck can be a bit problematic.  We can’t access the interior of our camper without opening the slides, and you’re not supposed to do that unless the camper is level.  It’s not always easy finding a level spot in a supermarket parking lot in order to open up and load the groceries.

It takes only a few minutes to unload the camper, and about fifteen minutes to load it back on the truck.  We can stow all the inside stuff, retract the slides and jacks, unhook the electric and water, load the camper on the truck, and dump the holding tanks in about 45 minutes.  One of the reasons we bought a truck camper is for the flexibility it provides in freeing up the truck for daily use.” – Joanne Hall, 2014 Chevy Silverado 3500HD, 2014 Lance 1172

“It depends.  If we are going to be at a site for more than a couple of days, and if the places that we want to see and visit might be more easily accessible without the camper attached, then we drop it.  However, if we’re only going to be at a campground for a couple of days, and there is no problem having the camper where we want to visit, then we would just as soon leave it on.

I must admit, now that we are more experienced loading and unloading the camper, and it has gone from a twenty cuss-word to now rarely a one cuss-word experience.  I do not hesitate off-loading it.” – Randy Bundschu, 2012 Chevy Silverado 3500, 2010 Lance 855

“When we are on the road, stopping for just one night, intending to wake up and head out, we do not off load the camper.  If we are going to be around for a few days and have hookups, we off-load it. The camper becomes a home that we return to after a day of sightseeing, fishing, hiking, or whatever.

Some forest service campgrounds are great for us because they have dump stations.  We can drop the camper for three to four days, put it back on, dump, return to the campsite and drop it again, or move to another campground.  We are seniors, so we have free admission to National Parks, and we pay half price to camp at the parks and Forest Service campgrounds.

We have been to a number of private RV parks where they do not allow us to off-load the camper.  We try to avoid those particular parks because we want the option.  The key is to remain flexible.  Of course, we are retired, so our perception of time, and the use of it, is much different than it was when we had the responsibility of our jobs.” – John Tully, 2014 Ram, 2015 Lance 855S

“I unload for short and long stays, depending if I need the truck or have full hookups.  It is easier to unload than my previous smaller camper.  It helps me remember all I have to do, including the trucks air bags, adjustable shocks, and diesel programmer.  I use wobble stoppers modified a little by me.  As you say, it is nice to have the camper with you when you can.  Last year I had to load it in a gale and rain in Rhode Island.  That wasn’t fun.” – Chip Collin, 2002 Ford F350, 2014 Chalet DS116RB

“I unload if I really, really want to explore a road/trail where the 11-foot tall, 25-foot long, 8.5-foot wide total package would be a problem.  Even my pickup is too big for Glacier Park’s Highway to the Sun (no dually, 21-foot length limit), but I’ve taken a naked pickup through Yellowstone and up a trail to a campground that contained an 11-percent grade in Alaska.  The tree branches along that one were too low for the camper’s roof air conditioner.” – Philip Tron, 2009 Chevy 3500, 2012 Lance 1050

“We also prefer to leave our camper on the truck.  The exception is if we plan or need to go some place were walking or using our bicycles is impractical.  We are planning to upgrade to Fastgun turnbuckles to go with our Torklift frame mounted tie-down kit.  Since we already have Atwood electric four corner jacks, loading and unloading isn’t difficult.” – Tom Dipaolo, 2000 Toyota Tacoma, 2000 Phoenix Wigwam

“We travel with a 155cc Yamaha SMax Scooter on our front hitch which allows us to quickly get out and about on almost any speed road, even up to 70 miles per hour. Although having the scooter allows both my wife and I to go explore without unhooking our truck camper, there are still times we would choose to unhook.  This is where we want to go sightseeing that requires us to travel on a very busy highway.

We encountered this in Houston, Texas when wanting to go see the famous Houston Rodeo, which required going on some major highways.  Having the scooter has definitely saved us from unhooking, and has added a new level of fun to our daily adventures!” – Charles Coushaine, 2001 Ford F350, 2012 Chalet DS116RB

“Great question.  I’ll be interested in others’ answers.  Our general rule of thumb is leave it on the truck for a one-night stay, and to take it off for two or more nights.  Our usual camping experience is staying either in National Forest campgrounds or boondocking.  We are very rarely in full-hookup campgrounds.

Wherever we are, our usual activities are hiking or biking, which in most cases involve driving to a trailhead.  While I’m not a big fan of unloading and reloading the camper on the truck process because it’s usually about a 30 minute chore, I much prefer it to having to batten everything inside down before driving away with it on the truck.  It also makes it very clear that this is our campsite when the camper is there around the clock.

Our first big trip was two years ago from our home in Colorado to the East Coast, visiting family in New York, heading up into Quebec, and then down through New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and ferrying over to Newfoundland.  Since time was of the essence our above rule of thumb worked very well.

We also enjoy fall camping in Utah in Moab, Canyonlands, San Rafael Swell where the access to the campsite may be a bit rough.  It’s less nerve-wracking getting to and from it without the big camper on the back.” – Bob Quigley, 2013 Chevy Silverado 3500HD, 2013 Eagle Cap 1160

“We haven’t dropped the camper in our first eighteen months of owning the rig.  It’s probably since we haven’t found a need to.  We take it everywhere; shopping, dining, points of Interest, etc.

It only takes a few minutes to unhook and we leave the sewer hose to indicate the space is taken.  The water and electrical take just a couple of minutes each; longer on really cold days.

I was tempted to take it off once in order to go over the Logan Pass in Glacier National Park, which only had a 10-foot clearance.  There is very little gap in the bed between the camper and tailgate opening and I am not practiced at reloading it.  It could easily take a lot longer to unlock, unload and stow the Fastguns, dismount and remount.  I’d guess 20 to 25 minutes each both on and off.  It never seemed worth the time and effort.  We have no use for the truck unloaded at home.” – Joe Sesto, 2015 Silverado 3500, 2015 Bigfoor C2500 10.6E

“The main reason is to launch our 22-foot boat I tow around.  It is not always fun to back in at some ramps with the camper on the back.  If I will stay at one location for more than two days, it is definitely coming off.” – Ron Perkins, 2015 GMC 2500 HD, 2010 Travel lite 800SB

“A lot of our camping is centered around fishing.  We tow a boat.  When we arrive at the campground, we drop the boat and trailer off then unload the camper at our site.  The truck is then free to launch and load boat as required.

A lot of places we fish you can’t leave the boat in the water overnight, so having the truck free is important.  With electric jacks and Fastgun turnbuckles, it’s pretty fast.  I will admit that we did struggle a bit the first year as backing up a long box, quad cab under a 10-foot camper took some practice, and a few blue words!  If we are traveling and only stopping for the night or visiting friends and relatives, we don’t off-load.” – Roger and Diane Geisinger, 2013 Chevy 3500, 2013 Northern Lite 10-2

“We take it off only when a truck tail light needs replacing.” – Larry Bluhm, 2004 Ram 2500, 2011 Northstar Laredo SC

“I usually am at drag races or quad riding at a dry lake bed, so unloading is unnecessary.  I did unload at a beachside campground once so we could do some shopping and eating nearby.” – Ron Williams, 1997 Ford F250, 2003 Lance 1010

“We typically unload the camper if we are staying more than one night.  Longer stays mean we are exploring the area or fishing with the boat.  Overnight stays while we are traveling do not warrant dropping the camper.” – Michael Rodriguez, 2011 GMC Sierra 3500, 2011 Arctic Fox 1140

“In the summer of 2015, we traveled from Vermont to Alaska, and then from the west coast back to Vermont.  It was two months and 12,000 miles.  We never took the camper off.” – Marcy Jones, 2015 GMC 3500, 2015 Northstar 9.5 Igloo U

“You left out the third alternative, partial disconnect.  Several times in the mountains we have been unable to find level ground and had to unbuckle the camper to level it, but not take it off the truck.

One time in Victoria, the only spot the campground owner had left was terribly sloped. We backed in, and he came up with a whole bunch of large wood blocks and we slipped out from under and explored the city.  Getting back under the camper was a nightmare.

We do not take the camper off the truck just for the fun of it or to show off.  Sometimes in the mountains of Montana it comes off to explore in places where an “as big as they come” camper is impractical or impossible to take.  We are committed to leaving it on where possible.  We take a large pruning saw with us and will climb up on the camper and saw off big limbs which would have damaged the camper.  In other cases in the mountains, there are rock cliffs with rock protrusions up above.  We do not take a rock saw for that.  We remove the camper.

We don’t just use the camper for mountain biking, cross-country skiing and hiking, but we also do the tourist thing in cities in the United States and Canada.  Some of those times the camper is just too restricting.  We set up a home base and go from there, camperless.  Again, we do not take it off unless we have a good reason to.  Like you, being able to buy in grocery stores and put things in the refrigerator is so compelling.

When we vacation in the car, we eat in the car more often than we eat in cafes.  So eating home cooked meals in our own portable home is what we think is living high.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I admit that we also have a large fifth wheel.  We cannot imagine spending the winter in Arizona in a truck camper.  We can imaging spending months traveling with a truck camper and in fact are planning such a trip right now.” – Michael Turner, 2007 Dodge 3500, 1988 Lance

“We are new to truck camping.  In Denmark and elsewhere in Europe, truck camping is almost non-existent.  We made our first travel this winter to California and Arizona.  The first time we unloaded, it took the whole afternoon to load the camper again.  Since then it has been easier each time.

I like photographing, and my wife does not.  So it’s very convenient for her to stay in the camper when I drive around with my camera.  Another reason to unload the camper is that the truck is much more handy on narrow and bumpy roads without the camper.

We have only unloaded on campsites without hookups.  That means we have to load it again after a couple of days in order to fill and empty the tanks.” – Niels Clemmensen, Ford F350, 2014 Northern Lite 9-6 Q Classic SE

“We unload when we don’t have a spot to leave our 20-foot Bass boat in the water while camping.  I usually start fishing at sun up while my wife is still sleeping.  She would not appreciate being hauled down to the boat ramp at that hour in the morning.  Fortunately, most of the places we stay at have courtesy docks or a nice sandy bank to park the boat so we do not remove the camper very often.” – Mike Peebler, 2009 GMC 3500 HD, 2005 Lance 1181

“I only unload in the field for stays longer then three days and when black tank capacity is not an issue.  As an example, forest service campsites with restrooms or RV campgrounds in area we need truck to explore.  I intend to take it quail hunting next season and will unload I order to use the truck.” – Gordon Thompson, Chevy Silverado 3500 HD, 1998 Lance Squire Lite 195

“Whenever I upgrade to a newer camper I unload the camper.  I virtually never drop the camper.  But then, I rarely stay in the same spot two nights in a row.” – Michael Siedlecki, 2013 Ram 3500, 2006 Lance 1191

“In all the years – stretching back to 2002 – of owning truck campers, we have never unloaded it when we are away from home.  We do not tend to stay in any campground for more than two nights.  During the day we like having our own bathroom and kitchen with us.

This might be due to owning a travel trailer after our first truck camper.  If you think going to town or some attraction isn’t convenient with a truck camper in the bed, imagine driving around pulling a 26-foot travel trailer.  Having an RV that makes our truck just three feet longer is a pleasure in comparison.

I can have us disconnected in under ten minutes without rushing while Cathy takes care of the inside and retracts the slide-out.” – John and Cathy Strasser, 2012 Chevy 2500HD, 2013 Eagle Cap 850

“We do a lot of long weekends and just leave the camper loaded.  If we go for a week or more, we unload because we often do some local sightseeing and don’t want to go to the trouble of unhooking the water, electric, and sewer.  Also, off the truck, the camper sits lower to the ground so that first step is not such a doozie!” – Jean Landau-Vogt, 2015 Ford F350, Northstar 12STC

“If the campground allows dismounting and we are there for two or more days, we will unload so we have transportation to investigate the local area.  A lot depends on our campsite as to the location to unload and why we are there.  If our travel plans are to relax and we have time, we will visit the area further.  We’ve got to enjoy traveling and investigating.” – Eric and Jacki Devolin, 2007 GMC Sierra, 2006 Adventurer 106DBS

“We unload when we are going to be there a few days or for hauling the boat to other boat ramps fishing.  If we stay only for a night or two, the camper stays on the truck.” – Danny Bonds, 2015 Ford F350, 2012 Lance 1181

“We never unload our camper in the field.  It stays on the truck from early March to early November when we unload it for the winter.” – Laurel Wilson, 2013 Ford F-350, 2000 Four Wheel Camper

“We typically unload the camper from the truck if we are going to stay in one spot for three nights or more.  It’s easier for us to get in and out of the unloaded camper since it is a basement model which makes the floor higher off the ground.  We also have two dogs and getting them in and out of the camper is easier when the camper is unloaded, making it closer to the ground.

We don’t feel that it’s worth taking the camper off the truck just for a single night or two.  We plan to go to Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island for several weeks this summer and don’t plan to take the camper off the truck since we will not stay in any one spot more than two nights at a time.” – Mike and Paula Bostic, 1999 Ford F350, Chalet S95R Ascent

“At first, we always left the camper on the truck.  After some experience with it, we take it off anytime we have a multi-day stay where we have other places to visit.  It comes down to what is the least trouble, and with practice that seems to be unloading the camper.” – Robert Mayton, 2014 Ford F450, 2015 Lance 1172

“One of the reasons we purchased the truck camper was the ease of being at the campsite one minute and wanting to take off to sight see, shop or visit people the next minute.  It only takes one minute to wind up the electrical cord and pull the slide in if we want to leave the campsite.  Our normal camping ritual is a new site every night, so that was what the draw was to purchase the truck camper after dragging a travel trailer for the last fifteen years.

It is so nice not to unload every night, get up the next morning, load it again to drag it to a new place every day.  It’s always with us, ready to go.  Since you have it with you, you just put away the groceries or whatever you have purchased right away.  Plus the dog (or cat) gets to nap in their comfy bed wherever we are.  It is all about their comfort isn’t it?

Since this concept is new to us (truck camping) I suppose if we stay anywhere for more than a couple of days we will entertain the drop and go technique since the Torklift system allows us to dock in a matter of minutes.” – Rickey and Willie Werner, 2012 Ram 3500, 2005 Lance 981 (new to us)

“I unload if I need to wash the truck and camper.  I also unload if I am going to be a local tourist for more than two or three days.  Otherwise I like to keep the camper on the truck so that I have everything with me.” – John Addu, 2015 Dodge Ram 2500, 2016 Lance 650

“We unload on long trips most of the time.  We base camp in national parks and take a day trips from base camp.  If you go to Acadia National Park you have to watch height restrictions going into Bar Harbor.  We put our bikes, our backpacks, and whatever we may need in the bed of the truck and go.  If we just go for a long weekend and, most of the time, we don’t unload.

It is no problem to unload.  Practice, practice, practice.  A lot of people are amazed.  They stop and watch.  Some will even shake their heads with disbelief.  Sometimes I will say, “Watch, when I push this button it’s gonna fly”.  We have owned campers from a pop up to a 40-foot Eagle coach, but the last six years we have been truck campers and I don’t see that changing.  So loaded or unloaded, it’s all good.” – Kevin Brenner, 2003 Chevy 3500, 2010 Lance 1181

“I tend to leave my camper on the truck for short camping trips as it is a time consuming exercise to remove due to the fact I have manual jacks.  I would love to retro-fit to electric, but it’s too cost prohibitive.  I am often camping by myself, so not having help comes into the picture.  When I do have help and the camping site is fairly level, I will unload, especially if I am going to be in the same site for several days.” – William Steger, 2005 GMC 2500HD, 1995 Kodiak SC83

“It depends on what I will be doing.  If I am in for a no stress weekend camping, it stays on and I stay put.  If I am going to be camped for a few days and I want to explore or if I think parking will be an issue, off it will go.  I also like having all my gear with me at times and being able to pull over at a scenic place for lunch, a quick nap, or to go fishing.  I have no fear of taking the camper off or putting it back on.  I have a few tricks to help with the process and do it by myself all the time.  I think that’s what stops most folks from taking the camper off.” – Frank Paglianite, 2013 Ford F350, 2012 Lance 992

“Normally leave it on if we don’t take our ski boat.  I will take it off to to launch the boat.  I’m not too keen on launching the boat with camper on.” – Bob Presto, 2008 Silverado 3500, 2008 Lance 1191

“We travel to Alaska every year and take a two week trip from Florida.  We have never taken the camper off until we get to camp on the Kenai.  Then, it’s off for up to four months.  During the winter we take several week long trips.  If we are going to stay three to four days in the same place we off-load the camper for ease of touring.” – Bill and Shellia Sargent, 2012 Ram 3500, 2009 Lance 971

“We have never unloaded the camper at a campsite.  We have power jacks and Torklift wobble stoppers so we can load, unload, and secure the camper fairly easily.  I usually load the camper at the first of the season and unload it when we have completed our season.  We keep a fiberglass tonneau cover on the truck when the truck camper is not loaded.  I have a winch operated lift in the garage that allows the cover to be loaded and unloaded by one person.

Probably the main reason that the camper stays on the truck all summer is that the jacks on our camper clear the dually fenders on our F350 by 0.5 inch on each side. Since the truck is four-wheel drive, the camper has to be raised to the highest level the jacks are capable of to clear the truck bed.  Loading and unloading on level cement is easy as long as I keep a close eye on the fenders.  On un-level ground, loading and unloading is a scary prospect.  Our RV port is bolted to a level cement slab.  It is predictable place to load and unload.

Usually we camp one or two nights and move on, such as on the Blue Ridge Parkway.  It is easier to disconnect the utilities and reconnect them when we return.  The one trip we take where we camp at one spot for up to a week is at Windcreek State Park on Lake Martin in Alabama.  It’s a family reunion of sorts and we can use my sister’s truck if we need to drive into town for any reason.  She pulls a gooseneck horse trailer with living quarters and disconnects at the campsite.

Otherwise we do everything by boat.  We launch our 22 Mach I sport cuddy and keep it tied to the shore at the campsite.  If we need supplies, we stop at the marina store.  Since we fuel the boat daily every morning, it is logical to pick up ice and supplies while paying for boat fuel.  If we want to go to a restaurant, we have several great choices accessible by boat.

We often take the camper to car shows, although they are typically held at hotels and we don’t sleep in the camper.  We do use the camper for the refrigerator, generator, and to have a toilet handy, so it stays close to the show area.  Again, we don’t typically unload it because we drive the show car when we need to leave the hotel parking lot.  I expect that there are many different uses for a truck camper, and we probably don’t use ours in a typical manner.” – Charles Spray, 2002 Ford 350, 2001 Lance 1010

“I have electric jacks as well as the quick disconnect turnbuckles.  Even though I find it quite easy to load and unload myself, I somewhat rarely do it.  I guess I would generally have to be staying somewhere for about a week before I would bother to unload.  I’ve gotten so used to packing up my stuff and disconnecting that I find it easy to do that rather than leave the camper behind.

It also makes a bit of difference if I have my scooter with me.  I have a Yamaha scooter that I carry on a rack on a front trailer hitch.  If I have the scooter with me, I have very little need to unload and take the truck anywhere anyway.

One other thought is that I can’t tell you how many times I’ve left camp to go into town or take a drive somewhere and decided to keep going and not go back to last night’s campground.  I feel as long as I have my turtle shell along, I’m more free to change plans and find somewhere else to lay my head that next night.  Keep in mind that I’m not a planner.

Being a truck camper, I’ve always found that whatever campground I want to stay in can find a spot for me.  And it’s also so easy to boondock.  So I have never made a single reservation over many, many years of camping.  If I know where I have to be on such and such a date in the future, I may as well be living in a penitentiary.  For these reasons, I generally like to keep my options open to keep going even if I’m just running to the store for some milk!” – David MacArthur, 2008 Ford F350, 2010 Lance 992

“Because my primary use of the truck camper is for fishing local reservoirs for several days at a time, it was necessary to unload and load on every trip.  That way I can launch the boat every day without disconnecting and reconnecting hookups every day.

This quickly became I royal PITA and I designed a better system.  I mounted the truck camper on a gooseneck trailer and now only have one unload per trip – just like a fiver.  I didn’t just go with a fiver because it’s next to impossible to find a quality fiver as short as my truck camper on the gooseneck.  My Lance provides all the quality and comfort I require on my fishing adventures and fits very nicely on the 20 foot gooseneck I had built locally to carry it.  And I never have to unload/load it on the truck.” – Robert Hicks, 2010 Chevrolet 2500HD, 2011 Lance 992

“Yes, even with my custom set-up I can still unload my camper, just not as quickly.  No matter though, we do not take our camper off the truck except for an emergency situation. The truck camper allows us to park darn near anywhere and take it darn near anywhere, so that is what we do.

It is always great to have our kitchen with us if we get hungry and do not want to spend money at a restaurant.  It is especially great to have our bathroom with us.  Sometimes, while exploring something that we drove to and parked at, our son my not be interested. So he can always go in the camper, lock the door and play a game or read.  That’s another great reason to have our camper with us instead of unloading.

We have a great fondness of breweries.  If our tasting becomes a bit too much then the camper is there to sleep it off.

Leaving the camper on all the time is what we do.  It is just another reason why we like the small footprint of this class of RV.” – Rich Bain, 1999 Chevy 3500 flatbed, 2010 Adventurer 810ws

“I’ve never thought to take it off when I’m traveling.  I like being able to stop to use the bathroom or take a nap when I want.  But I store the camper in my garage and it sits on cinder blocks and 3/4″ plywood for support.  I have this fear of my foot going through the floor some day if I just use the jacks.  You guys are braver than me!” – Jack Pavie, 1995 Ford F350, 1987 Real Lite 950

“I full-time in my camper.  My camper stays on truck except for extended stays where I want to adventure without camper.  For instance, driving through Yosemite or Grand Canyon, or when I know I need to use the truck every day.

The exception to this rule is spending four days at Morro Bay and keeping camper on truck driving from state park to the beach each day so I could eat and use facilities and have my dog with me to run on the beach.” – Mike Cianci, 2004 Ford F350, 2010 Eagle Cap 850

“I only unloaded my camper once last year camping.  It was only because I had to go to a nearby town for some truck parts.  After you get a setup procedure down it doesn’t take very long.  Security is a issue if you are boondocking, so I do not unload.” – Charlie Young, 2013 Chevy 2500HD, 2012 Riverside 865

“Our camper stays on the truck.  If we are staying in one spot for more than a day or two, and have a lot of running-around to do, we rent a roller skate from Hertz.  Last time out, the savings in gas was half the rental cost, and the convenience was priceless.  It’s not a solution all the time, but it’s easy on the equipment and my patience!” – Alan Hubbard, 2004 Silverado 2500HD, 1993 Sunline 951

“I’m more concerned about hooking it back up.  I haven’t done it yet.  Nervous.” – Bill Lewis, 2016 GMC, 2015 Arctic Fox

“I almost always unload if we are camping more than two days.  The only exception is when we are sure we won’t be driving anywhere while camping.  Using the camper off the truck is so much easier to access compartments and get in and out of.  I have loaded and unloaded so many times over, I can almost do it blindfolded.  A lot of other campers and RVers comment on how easy it looks and how quickly I unload, level up, and get camp set up.” – Mike Borrego, 2005, Dodge Ram 3500, 2008 Host Yellowstone

“I unload when I need to take boat in and out of water each day.” – Kenneth Wright, 2005 Dodge 2500D, Travel Lite 890

“If we are at a rally, we will unload in order to roam around and take in the sites.  City parking garages do not work well if you remain loaded.  If we are only staying over night with full hookups, or at a goat grower seminar at an agricultural university for a few days, we will stay loaded.  If we are staying one night in a business parking lot we do not even put down the jacks.  We just start the generator, put out the slide, eat, watch television, stop the generator, and snuggle down to sleep.” – Jerry Bonneau, 1995 Ford F350SD, 2002 Lance 1061

“When we’re en route to a destination, and only going to be spending the night, my wife and I usually keep the camper on the truck.  If we are going to be spending a day or more we will usually unload the camper.  It is usually much easier to park our big dually when running errands or visiting an attraction than it is with the camper.  Also, since my wife is only 4’8″ tall, it is much easier and safer for her to enter and exit the camper when it is on the ground, even though we have a two-step stool!” – Jim Cornell, 2015 Ford F-350, 2014 Adventurer 116DS

“With our old setup we unloaded quite frequently if we were going to be somewhere for more than a couple of days.  It was easy with a short bed truck and camper without wings.  It is not as easy with our current setup, which is a long bed truck and camper with wings.  In fact we have only taken it off twice, both times at two different campsites at Joshua Tree National Park.  The first was to drive on rough roads.  The second time was so that we could go to the Road to California Quilt Show where it was $7 to park just the truck and $25 for an RV.

We have discovered how much we like having the camper waiting at a trail head when we return from a hike.  It’s nice to have food and bathroom waiting for us.

We have had to find service on the road and have always been able to find a dealer that can do work with the camper on the truck.” – Don and Sue Graf, 2008 Ford F350, 2013 Arctic Fox 865

“We don’t demount the camper unless we need to get out and about without it.  Generally we leave it on the truck and just level the truck.” – Mary Cyr, 2010 Ford F250, 2013 Northstar Liberty

“I do not unload in the field as my jacks are a detachable three jack set.  I do not trust going into the bed area unless it is on the truck.  I recently had to change trucks as the Chevrolet truck transmission went out on me on my way home from Charlotte, North Carolina where I was working on Highway 24.  My wife brought the jack stands and the Dodge truck to swap out trucks until we could get the other truck back on the road.” – Mark Burrell, multiple trucks, unknown 70s camper

“Last summer we visited and camped in Newfoundland and Labrador for two weeks.  If we were in one campground for two or more nights, we unloaded the camper.  We used the empty truck enough, especially in Gros Morne National Park, that the fuel savings on the overall trip was significant.  It’s probably a bigger issue in Canada than the United States.  I really enjoy your magazine.  Keep up the good work.” – Jamie Rea, 2012 Ford F350, 2012 Lance 855s

“I unload anytime we’ll be more than one night.  It’s easier to get in and out when it’s lowered.  It’s more of a setup campsite as well.  The more you roll out the easier it is.  It takes less than ten minutes with our camper, so it’s very easy.” – D. Boggs, 2015 GMC 3500, 2015 Adventurer 116DS

“90-percent of the time I off-load my camper at the campsite.  I like having my truck available to go sightseeing or visiting.  When I tow my boat, I often keep the boat at the campsite.  It’s easier to launch the boat with the camper off-loaded.  It takes me ten minutes to put the camper on the ground and twenty minutes to load it back on the truck.

I have had one experience in the last eight years where the campground wouldn’t allow me to off-load the camper.  The only time I don’t off load the camper is if I’m going to stay for a short period of time or if I’m not planning to do the things mentioned above.” – Dennis De Ville, 2008 Ford F350, 2008 Lance 1191

“It depends on several factors.  If we are at a location more than a few days, or if the camper may not fit in a small downtown location because a parking garage is the only option.  It could also be a location would be hard to maneuver like off-roading.  If we are camping at a lake for several days, the camper is generally on the ground.” – Russell Berquam, 2014 Ford F350, 2015 Arctic Fox 1140

“I don’t unload my truck because it is licensed as an RV.  So, the DMV says it can’t be used with out the camper.  I tow a Suzuki Samurai to run around.” – Kevin Hasch, 2013 Dodge 5500, Lance 1172

“From the time I leave my home until the time I return home, anywhere from a weekend to two or three months, I never unload my truck camper.  As a matter of fact, I remove the jacks in all but the weekend excursions to save weight and make the rig look better.  The whole reason for having a truck camper is so you can stop and/or park anywhere an automobile can.  If you need the bathroom, food, or just take a break, the camper is there for you.” – Dennis Stitt, 2005 Ram 1500, Travel Lite 840SBRX

“I never unload.  We like having the camper with us everywhere we go.  This way we can always have lunch, dinner, or if you need restroom; there’s nothing better then your own bathroom.  Parking can get tricky in some big cities, but I always use Google maps street view which is the best driving tool.  You can look to see what you are going to get into before you get there.

Having the camper at the kids’ sporting events is also good.  I can’t tell you how many times parents have asked for something that we had in the camper.  How about when the weather changes unexpectedly you can change or get a jacket?  Having your second home within walking distance from wherever you are visiting is very comforting in so many ways.” – Jim McNamara, 2005 GMC 3500, 1994 Lance Squire

“We rarely camp in one spot for more than a couple of days and even when we do, we usually keep the camper on so that we have it for food and supplies when we go around through the day.

For example, we camped at Mesa Verde a few years ago and having the camper meant that we could go all around the park without worrying about where we would eat or relax between hikes.

One instance when we do take the camper off is if we want to go through some challenging terrain that won’t allow for the height or the loss of maneuverability inherit with a mounted camper.  For example, we took a steep gravel trail down the Black Canyon of the Gunnison and followed the posted advice to remove the camper before we went down.  Clearance wasn’t much of an issue, but the brakes would have had a major workout and side-to-side clearance was tight.” – Steve Merrill, 2009 Chevy Silverado 3500, 2007 Lance 992

“This is a great question, and it’s something my wife and I have discussed many times.  As it is a hassle to unload and load our large heavy camper I have always made excuses not to, unless there is an emergency.

Now that we have some miles under our belts with this rig, we are finding that our lifestyle enjoys having our home with us where ever we explore.  My wife is happy to prepare meals, having a washroom with us is always a bonus, and even having a change of clothes nearby.  So, with that being said, we do not unload our rig and chose to travel around with it.  It does cause extra effort in regards to parking, but the extra walking to our destination because of distant parking is never an issue for us.  We are hikers and enjoy being active.  If we can’t get our rig into a safe situation, we move on.” – Wes Hargreaves, 2016 Ford F450, 2006 Snowbird 108DS

“We’ve just returned from a three month trip during which we traveled 8746 miles.  The only time we unloaded the camper was for a well-deserved oil change at a Walmart in Florida.  We need to stay long enough in one place where there are sufficient things to see and do to bother with unloading.  We’ve also found that we appreciate having all our stuff like our refrigerator and toilet when we go shopping or travel locally.” – Pierre Mongeau, 2013 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, 2014 Lance 855

“If I am going to stay in an area for a week or more and need my own transportation, off it comes.  It’s about a 45 minute job because I take my time to set up the camp trailer screw jacks and 2×6 boards (carried cross bed in front of camper and jacks in a bag in front of wheel wells) to support floor as recommended buy Arctic Fox, especially if the tanks in the floor are being used.

Also, I always block all jacks with boards to keep them from sinking into the ground.  Reloading takes longer, lining up in bed of truck.  I use four large 4×6 blocks of wood in each corner of the bed plus a rubber mat to keep the camper from shifting in bed.  I had camper shift sideways once and break a turnbuckle after hitting deep ruts where heavy farm trucks were crossing the highway going from field to field.  The camper shifted so much I could not see from the right mirror.  Another adventure in RVing!” – Bill Hansen, 2013 Ram 3500, 2007 Arctic Fox

“I unload for unexpected emergencies only.  It’s nice to have everything with you if your plans change.” – Don Arnold, 2014 Chevrolet, 2007 Northstar TC650

“If we stay more than two days we unload unless it is a bike friendly area were we can explore without the truck, like Key West.  We travel full-time from October through April so we have the loading process down.  With Fastguns and a stripe on the camper and in the truck bed we can load in about a half hour.” – Phil McEachen, 2000 Ford F350, 1998 Bigfoot 30C1011

 

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April Mod Contest: Mega Mods

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Covers have been constructed, tailgate solutions found, solar systems synthesized, a keyboard built into a dinette, and more.  Choose your favorite Mega Mod, and vote.

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Welcome to the April 2016 Monthly Mod Contest.  Please review the following six Mega Mods and vote for your favorite.  We will announce the April 2016 Mod Contest winner next week.  For more information about the Monthly Mod Contest, including how to enter, click here.

Click here to vote for your favorite April Mega Mod!

 

April 2016 Mod Contest Entries:

1. Alain Larose, Pointe Aux Outardes, Québec
2011 Ford F450
2005 Lance 1181

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When in storage, I want to protect our truck camper from bad weather, heavy snowfalls, rain, and strong winds.  To accomplish this goal, I started with a small snowmobile garage frame that’s 6-feet x 6-feet x 12-feet and mounted to 2-feet x 6-feet x 12-feet wood pieces.

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I then covered the garage frame with a tarp.  Another approach would be to pick up a truck garage cover that’s 12-feet x 20-feet x 8-feet.

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For the last four years, the frame and tarp cover has worked perfectly.  There has been no snow accumulation and it’s very good protection against bad weather and UV rays.  The frame and tarp cover are light and offer strong protection with good ventilation inside.

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It took me 10 hours to complete and cost $300.  In my opinion, the skill level of this mod is medium.

 

2. Stephen O’Neal, Miami, Florida
2013 Chevy 3500 HD
2011 Alaskan 11

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I wanted to have a solar power system that would enable me to extend my time time off-the-grid.  Since I was going to have to make DC wiring runs for solar, I also made AC wiring runs to install a Mach 8 Colman air conditioning unit at the same time.

Battery bank in Alaskan Camper

Initially I purchased an off-the-self system but, after running into an article on solar power, I realized that everything I thought I knew about solar was wrong.  The only items I kept from the off-the-shelf-system were the solar panels.

I purchased a Bogart Engineering smart charger that allowed me to customize the charging profile to the battery manufacturer’s specifications.

Bogart Engineering Smart Charger

I had to resize the cables from 12 AWG to 6 AWG to take care of voltage drop over a 22-foot run and build a control panel and cables from scratch for my four house batteries.  I also put in provisions for a future inverter.

Solar Panel Install wiring

The installation was a challenge because it required to blind drill through the inside of the framing of the roof; a 2-inch space in two separate locations.  Both were done from the 2-foot x 2-foot roof opening for a exhaust fan or air-conditioning unit.

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The first was a 20-inch drill for the cable run from the control panel, which was located on the outside of the Alaskan, and the second was a 12-inch to a power junction box on the roof.

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The Alaskan has a wood frame roof on 16-inch centers so the Z mounting brackets on the panels had to match the spacing of the 2-inch x 2-inch frames.  I used 1 1/2-inch wood screws and put a very high bond (VHB) tape on the Z foot to keep moisture from entering the roof and help carry the wind load.

It has worked out well running my biggest load; a Norcold DC refrigerator 24/7.  However, I want to purchase a small generator for charging the batteries on cloudy days and to run the air conditioner when needed.

It took me 45 hours to complete and cost $2,300.  In my opinion, the skill level for this modification is medium for the use of the tools, and hard for some technical expertise and components.

 

3. Mark Siminoff, Mountain View, California
2005 Dodge Ram 3500
2004 Alpenlite Saratoga 935

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We are currently traveling our with two children in a truck camper for a full year.  A significant chunk of our daily routine is dedicated to education and our homeschooling curriculum, which includes music.

One of the instruments both kids are learning to play is the piano.  Of course, it’s no simple task to squeeze a piano into a truck camper.  So, as part of the preparation for our trip, I researched compact keyboards and came across the Alesis V49.

This MIDI keyboard is compact enough to travel with us.  It has a great feeling keyboard with velocity sensitive keys, is USB powered, and can play on and through our iPad.  From there it plays through the truck camper’s stereo speakers, or through headphones.

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The big challenge, of course, was finding a place in our tiny truck camper to store a MIDI keyboard.  After some searching and measuring, I realized that the keyboard was about the same length as the dinette table, so I decided to make a new tabletop with the keyboard tucked away inside of it.

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I chose to create two separate storage compartments within the table; one for the keyboard and the other for school and craft supplies.  Accordingly, the tabletop has two doors.  When open, each door has small ledge which can also be used to support a book, classwork, or an iPad.

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I fabricated the new tabletop entirely from scratch using 3/4-inch 13-ply birch for the top and 3/8-inch 7-ply for the boxes.  The top surface is Formica high-pressure laminate and the interior and exterior surfaces have been finished with a durable satin polyurethane and stain.

For times when the kids are working on projects (or meals) that might get messy, I made a pair of 1/16-inch thick LDPE cover sheets that are fitted to the tabletop.  When not in use, these sheets are stored behind the dinette’s back cushions.

The whole family uses this table every single day.  We eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner on it.  We also do home schooling, craft projects, and practice piano lessons.  I even composed this Monthly Mod Contest application on it.  In the evening, the dinette converts into my daughter’s bed.

This modification took 36 hours to complete and cost approximately $600 including the MIDI keyboard.  In my opinion, this mod was hard because I had to ensure that everything would fit.

The entire assembly was designed in CAD (SolidWorks) before a single piece of wood was cut.  Creating the table top and boxes required extensive carpentry skills, especially pocketing the hidden hinges.  Specialized tools were needed to apply the Formica laminate and polyurethane finish.

 

4. Russell and Gretchen Berquam, Livingston, Texas
2014 Ford F-350
2015 Arctic Fox 1140

We don’t like driving around without the tailgate on the truck.  When we were out in our truck camper with the camper off of the truck, it was always a disappointment to have part of the truck missing.  I wanted to have the truck tailgate on the truck when we took the camper off of the truck.

I figured out a way to keep the tailgate on the truck when the camper is both on and off. Now, when we remove the camper from the truck, it takes about 2-minutes to disconnect and close the tailgate.  Then it looks like a complete pickup truck.

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I had previously installed angle iron rails in the bed of the truck to keep the camper in place, so a small extension to support the tailgate was a fairly simple addition.

The clear underside area of our camper extends 24-inches past the end of the truck bed, which is enough room to permit the tailgate to fit unobstructed under the camper without braces or tanks in the way. I did not include complete construction details since every truck and camper would require different sizes.

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The under view of the truck with the camper on, and the tailgate on and extended

Tailgate rail extension camper

This photography shows the rail extension flipped out and bolted to the tailgate.  A bolt plate was added to the inside of the tailgate (not shown).  A second cable bolt was added to hold the cables out of the way when they were not holding the tailgate in the normal configuration.

The cables that normally support the tailgate in the open position had to be disconnected since the camper would hit them and the cables hold the tailgate slightly above level.  A different method of holding the tailgate up was required.

When the cables are disconnected from the tailgate, it pivots down and rests on the bumper and would damage the tailgate.  The cables were disconnected and attached to a temporary bolt to keep them out of the way while the camper is on the truck.

A swing out bracket was added to the angle rails to hold the tailgate in the level position and off of the bumper.  The brackets were constructed from 3-inch x ¼-inch flat iron.  I made two at 24-inches and two at 17-inches.  The metal and bolts were about $30 and an additional $10 for the welding.  A short mounting bracket could be used instead of the angles which I have installed in our truck.

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The extension pivots out on the bed rails and then the tailgate is bolted to the extensions.

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This photograph shows the rails in truck with the extensions folded forward.

Since most projects like this are 90 percent design and 10 percent doing, it was months in design and the construction only took about 2 days to complete.  After several camping trips with the tailgate on the truck, I wouldn’t change a thing

It took me 15 hours to complete and cost $40.  In my opinion, the skill level of this mod is hard.

 

5. Charles Spray, Bryson City, North Carolina
2002 Ford F-350
2001 Lance 1010

My wife needed an improved step to safely enter and exit the camper.

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We also needed additional storage carrying capacity when not towing our boat or enclosed car trailer.

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I bought a hitch mounted cargo carrier with a folding ramp.  Then I modified it to connect to a Torklift SuperHitch with a Super Truss for increased stability.  I added LED lighting for increased visibility.

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It works well.  Since the initial install, I have purchased a folding step to use instead of the ramp, and added stabilizer jacks designed for a tent camper.

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Now the assembly does not wobble when the unit is parked and we use it for a step.

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It took me eight hours to complete and cost $700.  In my opinion, the skill level of this mod is medium.

 

6. Jim and Anne Beach, Red Deer, Alberta
2009 GMC 3500HD
2012 Arctic Fox 865

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We wanted a hitch extension that would be the same the hitch height (23 to 24-inches) as the utility trailer used for hauling our RZR.  Most hitch extensions are straight and sit too low for the hitch height of the trailer.

At this height the trailer is level with the truck and looks consistent with the rest of the rig.  The other factor was wanting to keep the hitch high enough so the that it wouldn’t hit the road surface when going through dips and rough trails.

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The GMC dually had a two and a half inch hitch tube.  That is what was used for the foundation of the hitch extension; a 2 1/2-inch x 2 1/2-inch x 1/8-inch wall tube.  We could have used 3/16-inch wall, but I wanted to keep the weight down.  Most purchased hitch extensions are 3/16-inch wall.

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After a series of measurements were made, a simple drawing of the design was the result.

The hitch required an 11-inch kick to get the height up to the required 23-inches.  Loaded with the camper, the 2009 GMC dually stock hitch is about 12-inches from the ground.  12 + 11 = 23 inches.

Another thing that was important was that the hitch was not to interfere with the Fox Landing step when it is down or up.  The landing has a curved cut out that seems to have been made to fit a hitch extension.  Thanks, Northwood.

From the pictures you can see there are quite a few parts that need to come together for the hitch extension to fit right and be strong enough to take the load of a 2,000 or 3,000 pound trailer with a hitch weight of 150 to 200 pounds.

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Above left: Rear tie-down and chain mount, Above Right: Front tie-down mount

I also built turnbuckle ties that connect to a frame cross member at the upper rear of the truck above the spare tire.  The two side chains and turnbuckles connect to the rear tie-down mounts.  The tie-down mounts were custom built to fit the truck because of the type of running boards the truck had on it when we bought it.

The funny thing with the tie-down mounts was that we built them sight unseen before picking up the camper. They worked perfectly and didn’t require any changes from the first build.  Luck was on our side with them.

The hitch has an extension for the seven pin RV plug, so the trailer plug fits where it is supposed to.

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The hitch extension is bolted in the pin holes for the stinger and the truck hitch is also a 5/8-inch bolt.  Anti-rattle pinch bolts are also used on the sides and bottom of the stinger hitch so there is no noise from loose parts.  I would install these on any hitch.  When in use, they get rid of the constant tap and squeak from most hitches.

This has been a great mod and it turned out really well.  I wouldn’t change anything from the original design.  We keep the camper on the truck throughout the year.  So far the hitch has stayed on the truck as well.  With the Fox Landing up, the the hitch sticks out only about eight inches.  With it down, it is completely covered.  With the Fox Landing step down it provides an easy and safe way to get into the utility trailer when stopped.

It took me eight hours to complete and cost $120.  In my opinion, the skill level of this mod is hard.

 

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RV Shows and Rallies: Week of April 25, 2016

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The Lance Camper Rally hosted by Ocean Grove RV is in Florida and the Puyallup RV Show is in Washington this week.

April 28 – May 1, 2016
Lance Camper Rally of Ocean Grove
Ocean Grove RV Resort, St. Augustine, Florida
Organizer: Ocean Grove RV
Lance Factory Representation and Seminars, Technical Seminars, Lance Product Displays, Historic St Augustine Tours

April 28 – May 1, 2016
Puyallup RV Show
Puyallup Fairgrounds, Washington State Fair, Washington
Adventurer, Eagle Cap, Arctic Fox, Wolf Creek, Northern Lite, Lance

To see more RV shows for 2016, please visit our Shows and Rallies page.

 

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2016 Lance 850 Review

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Truck Camper Magazine evaluates a 2016 Lance 850, a long bed, hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.  Seven years running, is the 850 still competitive?  Let’s find out.

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Lance Campers debuted the 850 in Truck Camper Magazine on November 19th, 2009.  The Lance 850 was developed to replace the 835, one of seven truck camper models Lance replaced or eliminated for 2010.

When we toured the Lance Camper factory in Lancaster, California later that summer, the evidence of even more change was everywhere.  This was not a company that had sat around during the dark recessionary years of 2008 and 2009.  On the contrary, the Lance management and engineering teams had taken full advantage of the economic slow-down, and pushed forward on all fronts.

As we explored the factory, we saw a manufacturer buzzing with cutting-edge technologies, state-of-the-art materials, and innovation.  For example, they had completely integrated their 3D Solidworks design process to take full-advantage of a growing fleet of CNC machines.  We detailed this and many other advancements in a must-read report for any Lance-enthusiasts, “Lance Camper Factory Tour”.

The older units Lance was replacing in 2010 were a reflection of Lance’s past.  Specifically, they were wood-framed, just as Lance Campers had been building since 1965.  The new models were 100% aluminum-framed and fully-laminated.  As Gary Conley, National Sales Manager for Lance Campers, explained during the Lance 850 introduction, “It’s the end of an era.  Wood framing has served its time, and now we’re off to something better.”

In retrospect, the Lance 850 was a very important truck camper for Lance Campers.  It was the first camper to successfully synthesize all of their current thinking, and proof of concept that those ideas, materials, and production approaches would work.

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As the saying goes, that was then and this is now.  The Lance 850 has been in continuous production for almost seven years, a very successful run for any truck camper model.

The question is, how does the 850 measure up today?  Is it still a relevant model, or is the 850 overdue for the next sea change?  With our camera in hand, we went to Ocean Grove RV in Saint Augustine, Florida to find out.

Floor Plan Evaluation

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Folks who have owned a hard side truck camper built before the proliferation of slide-outs (mid-2000s) will probably see many familiar design elements in the 2016 Lance 850.  Looking at the floor plan, this is an old-school truck camper layout through and through; non-slide, rear wet bath, U-shape dinette, angled central kitchen, and a typical cabover cabinetry arrangement; two identical front cabinets, passenger’s side hamper and closet, and driver’s side floor storage.

Our first truck camper, a 2004 Lance 1030, had almost the exact same floor plan as the 2016 Lance 850.  As newbies to truck camping back then, we didn’t appreciate the decades of refinement this proven floor plan benefits from.  The layout, storage, and flow of the camper just seemed right.

For the following floor plan evaluation, we are putting the historical perspectives aside and giving the Lance 850 a fresh look.  Starting from the back and moving forward, the rear wet bath is up first.

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The one-piece fiberglass wet bath in the Lance 850 is all about function.  You get a flush toilet, sink, and shower with just enough room for each.  The dual pane skylight improves the headroom while bringing in natural light.  The towel rack and shower rod are great for drying towels and wet clothing.  The fan helps to keep air flow going, and offers a modicum of auditory privacy.

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As with any truck camper, we strongly recommend sitting on the toilet and standing in the shower stall to make sure the wet bath offers enough toilet leg room and shower washing space to be comfortable.  Remember, you don’t spend much time in the bathroom.  Lance could have made the wet bath bigger, but then you would be giving up precious interior living space.

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Above: Note the skylight, multi-speed Fantastic Fan, stereo speakers, and LED lighting above the U-shape dinette.

The Lance 850 features a rear U-shape dinette.  Our Lance 1030 had a very similar U-shape dinette and we found it very comfortable.  That said, we now prefer the leg room of full-booth dinettes made possible by wheel-well-height basements.  Of course a taller basement would mean more weight.  In truck campers, everything is a trade off.

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Above: All 2016 Lance Campers feature frame-less windows.  As you can see, the Jalousie-style frame-less windows crank out making them usable when it rains.

Most owners of this camper will be couples who will sit across from one another.  As such, I would love to see Lance offer an optional full-booth-size table.  Picture the stock table extending to the passenger’s sidewall.  For meals, laptop use, or a game of cards, this larger table would transform the functionality of this dinette.

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The overhead bunk and storage area is nothing less than fantastic.  Not only can it quickly become a place for junior to sleep, but it’s a great place to keep sheets, towels, and clothing.  Others might keep fishing poles, hunting gear, or a metal detector in this space.  All too often, slide-out truck campers lose this storage area.  We couldn’t imagine camping without it.

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Above: Lance is using laminated exterior panels (Lamilux fiberglass, Azdel composite, and closed cell foam insulation) as their dinette seating panels.  These exceptionally strong and lightweight panels are CNC cut-outs from their sidewall construction process.

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Above: The Lance 850 dinette converts into a bed.  The challenge is figuring out which of the seven cushions were needed to form the bed.  Hint: You only need four cushions.

We are big fans of Lance’s new reversible cushions, a truck camper industry first.  With reversible cushions you can choose from two different fabric combinations, or change things up down the road.

Lance-850-Floor-Plan-3DAbove: The 3D floor plan above shows the storage opportunities in the Lance 850

Directly across from the dinette is a tall wardrobe for coats and hanging shirts.  We don’t bring hanging shirts with us anymore and have long-since decided that storing coats on hangers is a waste of space.  Since we camp in mostly warm weather, coats can be folded and placed where we can reach them when needed.

That leaves wardrobes like this open to storage containers and shelving mods.  For example, a trip to the Container Store would likely yield a number of good options.  Fabric shoe racks anyone?

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The kitchen counter space in the 850 is minimal.  The deep three-burner range oven and two basin sink take up almost all of the forward most counter surface area.  What’s left are two triangle-shaped spaces to the left and right of the sink, and a larger area behind the sink.

Lance 850 kitchen galley

We had this exact same kitchen counter and appliance set-up in a 2013 Lance 855-S we borrowed in 2013.  In practice, the limited counter space didn’t change our ability to cook and prepare meals, but we keep our road food extremely simple.  As Angela will tell you, I am notorious for making one pot dinners.

If you require counter space for cutting vegetables, mixing cake batter, or staging ingredients, the 850 kitchen may not meet your culinary requirements.  You might also be frustrated if you use a coffee pot, toaster oven, crock pot, or other cooking appliances while traveling.  We don’t, and were fine with the limited counter space.

Ideally, Lance would offer an option for a smaller single bowl sink and two-burner range like what they chose for the 2016 Lance 650.  That approach would present significantly more counter space with less weight.  Of course not everyone would want to give up the oven, third burner, or the second sink.

Lance 850 kitchen

If you opt for the optional microwave, overhead storage in the kitchen is limited to one cabinet.  On balance, Lance did include additional storage under the sink, a single drawer to the left of the range oven, and a three-basket pull-out pantry next to the refrigerator.  You can also use the oven to store pots and pans.

In short, an owner of a Lance 850 will need to be mindful of how they utilize their kitchen storage.  Bring only the dishes, utensils, pots, and pans you need and you’ll do fine.  Truck camper storage is always a challenge best met with planning and efficiency.  Besides, this is the price we pay for demanding microwaves, three-burner range ovens, and two basin sinks in our truck campers.

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Above: The sliding pantry next to the 5-cubic foot refrigerator

The 5-cubic foot, 3-way (12-volt, LP, and AC) Norcold refrigerator in the Lance 850 features a separate refrigerator and freezer.  From experience, a 5-cubic foot refrigerator provides almost the same amount of practical food storage space as a 6-cubic foot refrigerator.  We have used campers with both 5 and 6-cubic foot refrigerators and haven’t needed to adjust our food shopping habits much when using the 5-cubic foot models.  The slightly smaller freezer is the biggest challenge.

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What was most interesting is the 12-volt switch over the refrigerator to prevent the 12-volt mode from accidentally draining your batteries.  Nice touch, Lance.

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The north-south 60 by 80-inch queen-size bed will allow you to sneak past your snoring spouse to use the bathroom or get a 2:00am drink of water.  Not everyone has the same sleep schedule, so a north-south cabover is a real plus.

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Above left: Driver’s side of the cabover.  Above right: Passenger’s side of the cabover.

The two sides of the cabover offer some excellent storage options.  On the passenger’s side there is a front cabinet, hamper, and storage closet.  On the driver’s side, there is a front cabinet and drawer, floor space, and a small storage cabinet.

For those who are concerned about marital harmony, the storage on both sides seems well balanced leaving couples the option to choose which side suits them best.  If you both choose the same side, try rock, paper, scissors.

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Above left: The HDTV in the cabover.  Above right: The television swiveled out to the main living area.  Also note the tank monitors, power awning control, awning light, and stereo system.

Honestly, we love the cabover in the Lance 850.  It’s attractive, well designed, has plenty of light from the Heki skylight and opposing windows, and offers an appropriate amount of storage.  What more could you want?

Specifications

Specifications
Dry Weight 2,445 pounds
Wet Weight* 3,350 pounds
Floor Length 8’11”
Overall Length 17’7″
Width 96″
Interior Height 76″
Exterior Height 8’6″
Center of Gravity 34″
Truck Type Long Bed

Lance Campers reports the dry weight of the 2016 Lance 850 at 2,445 pounds.  This weight is based on a unit without options and is unlikely to be representative of a unit found on a dealer lot.  If you want a Lance 850 at this specified dry weight, you will need to special order the unit.

Most Lance 850 models will likely have 150 to 200 additional pounds with popular options; air conditioner, microwave, 10-foot power side awning, rear door awning, remote-controlled electric jacks, HDTV, day/night shades, Fantastic Fan, Heki skylight, removable pass-through window, etc.

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Above: The Lance 850 roof.  Note the air conditioner, HDTV antenna, Heki skylight, and roof rack.

With an 8-foot 11-inch floor and a 34-inch center of gravity, the Lance 850 is designed for long bed trucks.  The exterior width is 96-inches (8-feet), the maximum width allowed for truck campers and RVs.  Unlike many of the truck campers that have debuted recently, the 2016 Lance 850 is not a candidate for a half-ton.

Interior height is 76-inches, or 6-feet 3.3-inches.  I stand at 6-feet 3-inches, so I had to be careful around the air conditioner.  That said, I quickly became accustomed to the ceiling height and found it comfortable.  It’s interesting to note that the new Lance 650 has an 81-inch ceiling and the Lance 825 has a 77-inch ceiling.  Not all Lance ceiling heights are the same.

Truck Camper Magazine wants to continue to encourage Lance to mark the center of gravity on their truck campers.  As of now, they do not.

Capacities

Capacities
Fresh 30 gallons
Grey 20 gallons
Black 18 gallons
Water Heater 6 gallons
Propane Tanks 2x 20 pounds
Batteries One Battery

The 30 gallon fresh, 20 gallon grey, and 18 gallon black tank capacities represent a good balance for an 8-foot truck camper.  If any of these three tanks will be a limiting factor it’s the grey tank.

Our 2004 Lance 1030 had similar holding tank sizes; 33 gallon fresh, 15 gallon grey, and 15 gallon black.  With those tank capacities, we were able to go about 5 to 6 days without requiring a dump station.  If we filled the fresh tank when we dumped, we never ran out of fresh water.  The black tank was also plenty.  However, even with short navy showers and quick hand and dish washing, it was always the darn 15 gallon grey tank that filled up first.

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Above: The low water drains and dump area of the Lance 850

Based on this experience (we lived in the 1030 for six months), and the 5 additional gallons of grey offered by the 850, we believe we could go for 6 to 7 days with the Lance 850 before needing a dump station.  Your mileage may vary.

Lance could have made the 850 grey tank bigger, but that would have added weight.  Many of the compromises in a unit like the Lance 850 are often the result of the manufacturer’s attempt to hit a weight target.  Like any truck camper, Lance 850 owners will quickly get in tune with their holding tanks and adjust their camping and dump station visits accordingly.

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Above: Exterior driver’s side features (left-to-right) include two 20-pound vertical propane tanks, fresh water fill, shore power connection, hot water heater, exterior shower, exterior storage, and sewer hose compartment

The 6-gallon hot water heater and two 20-pound vertical propane tanks are exactly what we like to see in a full-size hard side truck camper.  You’ll have plenty of hot water for two extended showers, and enjoy the ability to exchange the propane tanks at thousands of hardware stores, grocery stores, and gas stations across the United States and Canada.

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Above: The optional second vented battery box and battery in the step-up to the cabover.  Also note the battery disconnect switch and fuse panel in the picture on the right.

With all LED lighting, the standard single battery might be adequate, but we would strongly prefer the second battery option (as shown) for a unit this size.  The second battery will be very helpful to support the propane furnace fan in cold weather (a notorious battery drainer), water pump, and camper jacks.

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Above: On the passenger’s side is the lower refrigerator vent, furnace, battery port, exterior cable connection, and exterior propane connection

Either way, we always recommend a solar panel to help keep your battery bank charged.  Unless you strictly camp at full hook-up sites, put the second battery option and solar panel system on your Lance 850 wish list.

Wet Weight Calculation

Using the standardized Truck Camper Magazine wet weight calculation, let’s run the numbers on the Lance 850.

Base Dry Weight – special factory order only

Lance 850: dry weight, 2,445 pounds + 30 gallons fresh, 250.2 pounds + 6 gallon full hot water heater, 50 pounds + 2x 20-pound full propane tanks, 40 pounds + 1 battery, 65 pounds + stuff, 500 pounds = 3,350.2 pounds

Lance 850 weight in pounds

Above: The rear weight sticker on the rear of the 850 that TCM reviewed.  Note that the weight above includes water, propane, and a refrigerator, but does not include batteries or factory options.

Standard Build Options – most dealer orders

Due to the fact that the above factory dry weight is the lightest theoretical possible weight without options, we’re going to add an additional 150 pounds for option weight; air conditioner, microwave, 10-foot power awning, upgrade to remote-control jacks, etc.  This is much closer to what a 2016 Lance 850 will actually weigh on dealer lots.

Lance 850: dry weight, 2,595 pounds + 30 gallons fresh, 250.2 pounds + 6 gallon full hot water heater, 50 pounds + 2x 20-pound full propane tanks, 40 pounds + 1 battery, 65 pounds + stuff, 500 pounds = 3,500.2 pounds

Truck Recommendations

3,500 pounds is right on target for a late model long bed one-ton truck.  Our 2013 Chevy Silverado 3500, crew cab, four-wheel drive, single rear wheel, V8 gas, short bed truck had 4,013 pounds of payload.  In long bed form, that same truck would have even more payload making it a perfect payload match for the Lance 850.  Add Torklift International Stable Loads to properly engage the overload springs, and hit the road to fun and adventure.

If you already have a truck, or have a specific truck in mind, you will need to run the numbers carefully.  3,500.2 pounds is very achievable, but most three-quarter and some one-ton long bed trucks fall short of this payload capacity.  This is specially true if a truck is older or includes heavy options like diesel engines, upgraded transmissions, four-wheel drive, and luxury packages.

Putting on my favorite broken record, the best course of action is to match the 2016 Lance 850 with a special ordered one-ton truck specified from the ground up for maximum payload capacity.

By special ordering your truck, you’ll pay for the truck and options you need, not what the dealer happens to have on the lot.  And by getting the most payload possible given your requirements, you should have extra payload for towing toys, or upgrading to a larger camper in the future.  New trucks are very expensive.  Buy the one you’ll need in the future.

It’s also worth mentioning the price difference between a long bed 2016 Ford F150 and a long bed 2016 Ram 3500 6.4L HEMI gas is negligible.  In fact, many Ford F150s cost more than our well appointed Ram 3500 SLT 6.4L HEMI, 4×4, dually, crew cab, long bed (low-$40,000s), but a Ram 3500 will have significantly more payload capacity.  Some folks would never change brand preferences, but the increase in payload for essentially the same investment (or less) is hard to ignore.

The Verdict

After all is said and done, I am compelled to return to the fact that the 2016 Lance 850 is a time tested truck camper floor plan.  In the course of this review, I have criticized the Lance 850 for its limitations compared to truck camper designs that are almost all bigger, heavier, and less proven in the field.  While those criticisms have merit, they pale in comparison to the benefits of such a well balanced and proven layout.

Lance 850 truck camper interior

Even better, this proven design benefits from Lance’s latest updates and innovations including a wrap-around TPO front nose cap, 100% aluminum framing, full exterior wall, roof, and floor lamination, and zero-tolerance CNC routing.  This camper may be inspired by vintage floor plans, but it’s a thoroughly modern truck camper nose cap to rear ladder.

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Above: The 2016 Lance 850 under review at Ocean Grove RV in St. Augustine, Florida

Anyone who is considering the Lance 850 is encouraged to visit your local Lance dealer and try on a few items.  Sit on the toilet and test the leg room.  Stand in the interior living area and shower and make sure there’s enough ceiling height.  Have a look at the kitchen counter and refrigerator and make sure they’re a good fit for your meal preparation requirements.  Finally, sit in the dinette and see if it’s comfortable.

Chances are the cons listed below will not all be problems for you.  In fact, you might like the trade-offs the Lance team chose for the 850, as many have for the past seven model years.

Finally, we want to caution our readers not to overlook truck campers that aren’t the latest and greatest.  Older floor plans that sell well year after year do so for a reason.  The Lance 850 isn’t just a good example of a successful older design, but also represents decades of older campers that have been equally successful.  As the saying goes, what’s new isn’t always better.  Then again, I’m a guy who still listens to records.

Pros
Time tested and proven floor plan
Well balanced holding tank capacities
Large overhead bunk storage area
North-south cabover with queen-size bed
Excellent cabover storage
Three burner range oven and large two basin sink

Cons
Relatively small wet bath
Limited kitchen counter space
Limited kitchen area storage
Relatively small dinette and table
Making dinette into a bed is a puzzle
Standard single battery is limiting, but second battery is optional

Model Information
2016 Lance 850
MSRP: $27,180 (base)
Warranty: 1 year limited warranty, 2 year structural warranty, appliances have their own warranties

Lance Camper Manufacturing
43120 Venture Street
Lancaster, CA 93535

Phone: 661-949-3322
Contact Lance about the 850
Web: www.lancecamper.com

 

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The Big Flap on Mud Flaps

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Along with a rubber bed mat, rear mud flaps were high on the list of must-have add-ons when we took ownership of our factory-ordered 2014 Ram 3500.

A rubber bed mat helps to keep a truck camper from moving within the truck bed and is a highly recommended item for most truck camper rigs.  A rubber mat also helps to protect your truck bed if it doesn’t have a liner.

Rear mud flaps address a different need.  On a rig traveling without rear mud flaps, rear truck wheels pickup and throw water and road debris into the rear overhang skirt of a truck camper.  While highway driving, this water flies off the tires at near-hurricane speeds potentially causing all kinds of problems.

Unless you have a truck camper without a rear skirt (a model that ends at the tail gate), we strongly recommend rear mud flaps for your truck.  The only possible exception would be molded fiberglass truck campers that cannot rot or de-laminate, but even then there’s no sense in subjecting your camper skirt to unnecessary water and road debris.

To keep things simple, if your camper overlaps, get rear mud flaps.

Speaking of mud flaps, reader Paul Kroeker sent the following suggestion for Question of the Week:

“We have small mud flaps on our truck now and would like to upgrade.  I have researched the many different kinds of mud flaps available and found claims that some work better than others.  For a Question of the Week, I’d like to know what mud flaps Truck Camper Magazine readers have.”

Excellent question Paul.  This week’s Question of the Week is, “Do you have mud flaps on your truck camper rig and, if you do, what kind of mud flaps do you have?”  

We would also like to know if you have front mud flaps, and if you would get front and rear mud flaps again on your next truck.

Click here to see the reader mud flap recommendations.

 

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Northstar Releases 2016 Truck Camper Brochure

April 2016 Monthly Mod Winner

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With 70.4% percent of the reader vote, the Mega Mod winner has been chosen for our April 2016 TCM Mod Contest.  And the winner of this month’s Mod contest is…

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Congratulations to Mark Siminoff of Mountain View, California!

Your dinette table mod has won the April 2016 Truck Camper Magazine Mod Contest.  Your “Mod Scientist” T-Shirt prize is being shipped.

You are also now eligible to win the annual Top Modder of the Year grand prize; a $250 gift certificate to Lowes or Home Depot (or a Canadian equivalent).

To see the April 2016 mods, including the winning entry, click here.

Enter Your Mods Now!

If you’d like to enter mods to TCM’s Monthly Mod Contest, click here.  You can enter as many mods as you want, at any time.  Good luck mod makers!

 

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Capitol Reef Off-Road Tips

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Alaskan Camper owner, Maggie MacPherson, reveals where to go and what to see in Capitol Reef National Park.  Don’t miss her stunning photographs and off road tips.

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The first time we went to Capitol Reef National Park, we had a Mazda truck that was front-wheel drive.  We got to a place that said that four-wheel drive was needed.  We were disappointed.  Afterwards we bought our Pathfinder and explored Utah again.

In 2005, we took our Alaskan Camper and four-wheel drive 2003 GMC Sierra 2500 to Utah for the first time.  I had been there before, but there are always new roads to discover.

Spring and fall are the best times to go to southern Utah.  The kids are back in school, there’s often water in the creeks, and the weather is comfortable.  We’re lucky that we’re retired and don’t have to go in the summer when it’s too hot.

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Capitol Reef National Park is wonderful even on the paved roads.  There is a national park campsite there that is okay, but we prefer camping off the beaten path.

Capitol Reef National Park is a national park because it’s extremely wonderful.  That beauty doesn’t stop at the paved roads.  If you have a sense of adventure, and a suitable four-wheel drive rig, I recommend exploring the dirt roads in the park.

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Above: Driving on Cathedral Valley Road, Utah

Cathedral Valley Road is a dirt road that you can get onto from Highway 70.  Cathedral Valley Road is the main dirt road.  There are spur roads off that main road.  You need to decide to try them or not based on your level of comfort.

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Above: Camping on BLM land on Lower Cathedral Valley Road, Utah

With our Alaskan Camper and four-wheel drive Sierra 2500, we’ve gone almost the whole way though Utah on dirt or blue roads, never once getting on a highway.

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Above: Maggie at a scenic overlook in Upper Cathedral Valley

There is a scenic road from Capitol Reef down to the Glen Canyon Dam.  You take the Waterpocket Fold Road from Capitol Reef to Notom Road.  It goes along the side of the reef.  When you get there, you have a choice, go over the Burr Trail to Boulder to Highway 12 to Hole in the Wall, or you can continue down south to Highway 20.

If you continue south, you can go to Glen Canyon Dam and take the ferry across there.  That takes you to Halls Crossing at Highway 276 which is a paved road.  Natural Bridges and Valley of the Gods is to the east.  That is a road any truck camper can do.

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Above: Solomon’s Temple on the road from Fremont’s Junction

Once you are in BLM land near Capitol Reef, you can camp anywhere.  Do you want to be under a tree or look at Solomon’s Temple?  One place we camped was right across from the Walls of Jericho and the Great Basilica.  We usually look for where there is a former fire ring.  We are conservationists and, if we can, we try to use a spot that’s already been used.

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Above: Walls of Jericho and the Great Basilica

On the dirt roads, drive at five miles per hour, and put your truck into a lower gear.  You can get across amazing things if you’re creeping along.  You just have to have the time and the mindset.  The rewards are incredible.  You can go beyond where other people go if you have the right truck and equipment.  Just be aware and responsible.

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I have a funny story about Cathedral Valley.  We saw a huge black cloud, and were worried about a flash flood.  So, we went up to a high area to avoid trouble.  We were in the middle of the rain storm, which was exciting and beautiful because we were out of the drainage area.

Then we realized we were in a place we shouldn’t be.  We stopped in the road, looked around, and thought it would be a day to dry out.  We were looking for a place to camp, and waiting out the rain.

When it stopped raining, we saw four porta-pottis on a truck.  It was making its monthly trip to change out the porta-potties down the road.  He drove with chains down the road, so we followed in his tracks.  We were able to get out and continue on our trip.

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Well, Bentonite is like clay.  If you are on the road when it gets wet, you have no control.  It’s like black ice.  When Bentonite dries, it dries hard.  Our truck was full of Bentonite.  We had to go to a place to spray it off the bottom of the truck.  One of our truck wheels was rubbing on it.  Someone from town said to us, “I see that you have found Bentonite”.  You don’t want to be around it when it rains.

 

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Mud Flaps For Truck Campers

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Here is the real dirt on mud flaps for truck campers.  Warning: Evidently some choice language was spoken in English, German, and Norwegian in the making of these responses, along with something called a BORF.

Thank you to Paul Kroeker for sending in his question.  This week’s Question of the Week was, “Do you have mud flaps on your truck camper rig and, if you do what kind of mud flaps do you have?”

“Yes, we have rear mud flaps.  They are semi-truck mud flaps cut to length from the top.  24-inch stainless weights keep them hanging straight.  The hanging brackets are home made.  There are no flaps in front.  Just like my wife, Linda, and Bulldog, Dixie, I would never leave home without them!” – Denver and Linda Woods, 1997 Ford F350, 2001 Lance 1121

“I have DuraFlaps mud flaps installed on both front and rear.  They are a little pricier than others, but they fit perfectly and don’t require any drilling to install.  I put them on just after I got the truck in February of 2008 and they are still in excellent shape.” – Doug Stefano, 2008 Dodge Ram 3500, 2007 Lance 1191

“I guess I don’t think too much about it because the mud flaps were on the truck when I bought it.  I do like them and would probably put them on the next truck.  Being a dually, the tires could throw a lot of rocks.” – Frank Niehus, 2007 Ford F350, 2007 Arctic Fox 1150

“Wow, as a new truck camper owner, I hadn’t even thought of this.  So, I’ll add my thanks to Paul for the question.  No, I do not have mud flaps, but I am going to investigate getting some starting today!” – Jim McIrvin, 2015 Ford F350, 2012 Lance 1191

“I have front and rear mud flaps on the Ram and use a full one-piece mud flap (from one side of the bumper to the other side) when the 855S is on the truck.” – Ben Boulet, 2006 Ram 2500, 2012 Lance 855S

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“We have Husky front and rear molded mud flaps on the truck.  We’ve had them since September 2011.  No problems.  They’re durable and do what they’re supposed to do.  Installation was an easy DIY.  I’d buy the same ones again if one med flap was damaged or we replaced the truck.” – John and Marylou Wells, 2011 Chevy 3500, 2012 Chalet Ascent S100F

“I have Ford mud flaps from the dealer.  Texas requires mud flaps on dual wheel vehicles.  I don’t have them behind the steer tires.” – Paul Roberson, 2014 Ford F350, 1988 Lance 980

“The flatbed came with large mud flaps.  I would have added them if they weren’t included.” – Pete Haidinyak, 2016 Ram 5500

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“I have WeatherTech no drill mud flaps. The installation is generally easy, but aligning GM’s steel bracing rod with the hole that supports the wide fenders was frustrating. It didn’t take long, but bad words were said in English, German, and Norwegian.  There was some tension on that rod so keeping it and the mud flap in place while reinserting the bolt was tricky.” – Philip Tron, 2009 Chevy 3500, 2012 Lance 1050

“I have GMC Splashguards, but the camper still gets dirty.“ – Marcy Jones, 2015 GMC 3500, Northstar 9.5 Igloo U

“We do not have mud flaps on our truck, but we are very interested in installing them.  I’m very interested in seeing what others are using, especially on similar rigs.” – Rick Guffey, 2012 Ram 2500, 2013 Hallmark Everest

“I made my own, both front and rear, from the stock mud flaps they carry at the “Big Rig” store (18 wheeler kind).  You can also purchase mud flap weights.  They are usually in-stock at the store and will last a couple of seasons before the chrome plate wears off.  I went with the stainless version for about double the cost. I have stainless running boards as well.  The running boards help keep the road damage on the truck sides to a minimum.” – Bob Holland, 2012 Dodge 3500, 2013 Adventurer 910FBS

“I have hand made front and rear mud flaps with a 1/4-inch rubber sheet with kevlar thread.  I bought it from a rubber and foam sales shop.  The rear mud flaps have chrome weights.  The front mud flaps are plain.  Both sets are cut to size and screwed with black silicone.  Every vehicle I have, always has mud flaps.” – Douglas Packer, 2012 Ram 3500, 2014 Eagle Cap 1160

“Mud flaps are a must!  The mud flaps that come with new trucks are a joke.  They stop very little mud and dirt from flying around.  After market rubber flaps are the first thing I install on any new truck I am using.

Truck body, camper, and trailer damage prevention is a priority.  All you can do is your best.  There is still some debris that gets through to leave its mark, but the difference is dramatic.  It’s false economy not to spend a little time and money to install these protection devices (as well as others ) on your rig.  There will come a time to sell or trade up, and then you easily realize their value.

I usually end up at a farm supply store and purchase the large truck rubber flaps.  I have a dually, so I installed them on the rear of our truck.  The third one I purchased, I cut in half and attached to the front fenders.  It’s not expensive, it’s easy to work with, and lasts forever.” – Wes Hargreaves, 2016 Ford F450, 2006 Snowbird 108DS

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“Yes, I have front and rear mud flaps, and would definitely get them again!  Although I do not know the brand, the front flaps are molded plastic, and the rear dually ones are heavy duty rubber.  However, I also believe the side molded steps are just as important. These go from front to rear and, based on the molded design, prevents anything from being thrown up onto the sides of the truck.” – Charles Coushaine, 2001 Ford F350, 2012 Chalet DS116RB

“We have the factory option front and rear mud flaps.  They help, but I’m always looking for better!” – Robert Mayton, 2014 Ford F450, 2015 Lance 1172

“Our first truck was a 1974 three-quarter ton and I typically buy a new one every seven years.  We have always had standard manufacture issue mud flaps on the front and back of all our trucks.  We bought our first truck camper in 1974 as well.

In my opinion bed liners, a bed rubber mat, and larger mud flaps are a waste of money.  This is really a personal preference and a desire to gain a specific look or appearance.  As an example, Ford zinc coats its body so it will not rust if you scratch the bed.  While larger mud flaps will help from a few rock dings, the large mud flaps look terrible.

I’ve never had water damage associated to the lack of larger mud flaps. Remember we are suppose to re-caulk areas around the camper as necessary to prevent water leaks – including top, sides, and front – annually.

There is a more simple choice – slow down on gravel roads.  You have a lot of other things to worry about like tree branches, low bridges, hail damage and normal wear and tear.  A few hardly noticeable rock dings is not that big of a deal.

Be happy!  Camp more.  Love life.  Enjoy the outdoors.  See our national parks.  But don’t take my camping spot, okay?” – Tom Bender, 2011 Ford F250, 2009 Sun Valley Apache Chief 8.65 WS

“We have pre-formed plastic extensions both front and rear.  Being a dually, the rears are extra long and they are wider.  We have not found a lot of excess water and crude splashing up.  Our sewage tote is stored on our hitch extension, under the rear overhang.  We don’t get a lot of debris there.” – Eric Devolin, 2007 GMC 3500, 2006 Adventurer 106DBS

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“I have put splash guards on both the front and rear wheel wells of all my vehicles.  While these are not the full Husky mud flaps, they do a lot to reduce the amount of debris thrown up on the lower sides of the vehicle.

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Since my camper does not extend beyond the tailgate, I do not need to protect an overhang.” – Bill Peters, 2013 Chevy Silverado 1500, 2013 Four Wheel Camper Hawk

“I have mud flaps only on the rear.  I have DuraFlaps made here in Oregon.  I have had them in my last two trucks and I highly recommend them.  They look great and provide excellent protection.  I would definitely have them on any truck I purchased.

I added factory fender flares to my truck and have not found a need for front mud flap.  While I am sure they offer more protection I have not made the investment.” – Jeff Marcus, 2011 Ram 3500, 2015 Arctic Fox 1150

“We installed skirts on the back of our unit primarily to keep the rear of our unit clean from road debris.  The skirts are easily removable.” – Ernest Wallace, 2006 Chevy 2500HD, 2006 Lance Max 881

“I have front and rear DuraFlaps with stainless weight plates.  I would buy this product again.  They are pre-drilled for easy install, and are a rugged product.” – Keith Lincoln, 2012 GMC 3500, 2014 Host Mammoth

“To anyone installing mud flaps, make sure that a tape is placed under the mud flap contacting the body paint area.  In the Dodge Ram forums there is a lot of talk about mud flaps wearing through paint in a very short amount of time because of movement while driving.  Much of this for the people who have dealer installed flaps is being covered by warranty – if discovered and pushed at the dealership.  Also, applying silicone during install helps.” – Ken Snider, 2016 Ram 3500, 2016 Lance 995

“I have no mud flaps.  The funny thing is that, even after escaping the primordial ooze of Arizona’s Mormon Lakes at last year’s Overland Expo West, I had no appreciable accumulation of mud on the camper at all.  My clothing, boots, and floor mats are another story!” – Mark Obert, 1999 Ford F250SD, 1999 Lance 920

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“I have WeatherTech mud flaps on both front and rear.  They work great.  Also my 265/70/R16 tires do not extend outside the wheel well.  The Weathertech mud flaps were easy to install and look great on my truck.  I have not noticed any big problems with water spraying up on the camper wing skirts since the mud flaps were installed.

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They are very durable.  The mud flap was the only part to survive a recent blowout of a rear tire.  The side of the truck box and fender well was badly damaged and the inner fender liner was destroyed by the disintegrating tire, but when I went back to look through the remnants of my tire after the blowout, I found my mud flap in like-new condition.  It was the only piece I was able to salvage from the mishap.” – Arn Chamberlain, 2000 Ford F250, 2004 Palomino Maverick 8801

“We put mud flaps on this winter as we got tired of the running boards being full of road gunk and snow, and the vehicle we tow being covered as well.  The rear flaps are GMC OEM molded, hard plastic flaps, and they work and fit excellently.  The OEM pair for the front didn’t fit with the wheel well trim (even though they are for our truck specifically), so we ended up getting a set of Husky front flaps.  They are very easy to install and they work great.  We will definitely have mud flaps on our truck, front and rear, from now on!” – Tracy Schuster, 2014 GMC 3500, 2012 Lance 992

“I have both front and rear mud flaps.  All are rather large.  I will always have mud flaps on my trucks!” – Dean Curtis, 2002 Ford F250, 2002 Arctic Fox 990

Ram flatbed truck mud flaps

“I do.  They came with the flat bed set up.  I thought they were a mandatory item.  While I’ve never paid much attention to them, I’m always open to something a little different.  The flatbed manufacturer was using some old snowmobile treads.  I wanted those, but there was something about them not being legal.  Anyway, I just have the “BORF”s (Big Ole Rubber Flaps).” – Frank Poole, 2016 Ram 5500HD, 2016 Arctic Fox 990

“Yes, we have front and rear mud flaps.  We had them put on the truck long before we even considered having a truck camper.  They are Dodge factory flaps.  And, yes, we would put them on again.” – Victoria Buie, 2007 Dodge 3500, 2012 Lance 1050S

“We have DuraFlap mud flaps.  They are made in the USA in Medford, Oregon.  They are heavy duty, feature mounting holes that match factory bolts, and offer excellent anti-sail and and anti-spray capabilities.  I drove the Alaskan Highway without any issues from them.  I have a front and rear set.  They helped prevent rock chips and dings.  Excellent product and customer service.  Well worth the money.” – Thomas Cole, 2015 Ram 3500, 2013 Adventurer 86FB

“Yes.  I have them in the front and rear.  Heavy duty polymer mud flaps are a must have items on your truck.” – JaLyn Sheesley, 2008 Ram 3500, 1993 Lance LC980

“Yes, I have mud flaps on both the front and rear of my truck.  My camper stops six inches outside the bed.  They keep a lot of road debris off the rear of the camper.  The fronts help to protect the body of the truck from rocks and stuff.  Also, if you plan to travel through the great state of Texas, they are mandatory if you have dual rear wheels.

Mine are made by AVS.  I got them the same time as my window vent shades and bug deflector for the hood.  Yes, I would buy them again.” – Michael Davis, 2016 Dodge Ram 3500, 2011 Eagle Cap 800

“I have Ram mud flaps.  They came from the dealer, and are really thick (1/2-inch maybe) and heavy duty that cover the full width of the dual rear wheels.  They are so heavy they don’t blow up in wind or slip stream of the truck at speed.

They hung almost to the street without the camper when I bought the truck, and touched the pavement when loaded, so I trimmed the top off and raised them up.  Now they clear the street by about 2-inches with the camper on.

I tow a Jeep so I’m convinced that they offer some protection to my toad.  I have the stock Ram front mud flaps and they help to keep mud off the nerf bar steps.  I also use a rubber bed mat.” – Casey Myers, 2010 Ram, 2005 Alpenlite Cheyenne 950

“Yes, we have mud flaps on our dually truck.  I don’t know the brand name.  I had them put on at the truck dealer when we took delivery of the truck.  They have a chrome strip along the bottom edge and were attached directly to the truck with some screws that have a coating on the threads to protect the metal.   We also have front flaps.  If I bought another truck I would buy mud flaps.” – Michael Rodriguez, 2011 GMC 3500, 2011 Arctic Fox 1140

“Yes, I have the factory add-on molded mud flaps on both the front and back.  I would definitely have them on my next truck.” – Jerry Smith, 2012 Chevy Silverado 3500, 2013 Arctic Fox 992

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“When I took delivery of our custom-ordered Ram 2500, I had the dealer install Mopar mud flaps on the front and rear fenders.  They are black, heavy-duty (1/2-inch thick around the edges), stay stiff at highway speeds, and are easy to spray clean.  I would certainly get them again on my next truck.

The front flaps protect the running-board steps and rocker panels from mud and winter salt spray.  The rear flaps protect the exhaust pipe, camper truck bed overhang, and rear tie-down brackets.  They also add a more rugged look to my rig.” – Dave Thalman, 2013 Ram 2500, 2013 Northstar 850SC

“I have front and rear mud flaps on our Ford F250.  I bought them from Amazon.  They are the custom fit molded for the specific truck mud flaps.  They are installed easily and are attached in the pre-existing holes using screws and clips.  It was not necessary to remove the wheels or tires.

The front flaps help keep mud off the running boards, and the rear helps keep mud off the camper.  We live five miles off pavement on a gravel access/ranch road in northeast Arizona.  Rain equals mud!  I would get both front and rear mud flaps on any other truck I buy.” – Kenneth Reynolds, 2015 Ford F250, 2015 Adventurer 89RB

“We just have the Chevy factory body colored front and rear fiberglass optional permanently mounted flaps behind all four wheels (not a dually) and have never noticed any build up.  The camper and rear bumper extends almost 48-inches behind the bed.  We just came through some pretty heavy rain and the underside of the camper is spotless.  It’s been like that for over 20,000 miles.” – Joe Sesto, 2015 Silverado 3500, 2015 Bigfoot 2500 10.6

“Yes, I have rear mud flaps.  I don’t know the brand.  They were on the truck when purchased the truck used.  I do have front mud flaps that are attached to full length running boards.  Yes, I would get front and rear mud flaps on my next truck.” – Ronnie Willford, 1997 Ford F350, 2010 Travel Lite

“We converted our dually into a flatbed last year and included were full size rubber mud flaps, advertising the conversion company, of course.  We do not have front mud flaps and would probably only get rear flaps in the future.” – Dan and Peggy Sego, 2005 Dodge Ram 3500, 2011 Lance 992

“I have WeatherTech mud flaps on the front and rear wheels.  They are a big help in keeping mud off the running boards (and therefore, out of the cab).  I don’t envision a next truck, but will replace these if they are worn off or torn off.” – R. Shaffer, 2016 Ram 3500, Four Wheel Camper Hawk

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“I have Go Industries mud flaps on my pick up.  They are the largest ones I could find.  They also have the anti sail bracket on them.  The ones that came with the pick up were worthless.  They curled towards the tire and didn’t do much to stop anything.

The Go Industries mud flaps that I have now work great.  My camper, as you know, has a very large over hang and these mud flaps really stop the junk from hitting it.  The front ones came with the truck.  I didn’t see much advantage to changing those.” – David Donovan, 2007 Chevy 3500, 2012 Chalet TS116

“We had rear mud flaps installed when we bought our truck new in 2000. They certainly help keep the underside of the camper clear of dirt.  We do not off road, but do find ourselves on wet roads which have a coating of mud that sprays up under and along the sides of the truck and camper.  The underside of the camper does not show an accumulation of dirt which we attribute to the rear mud flaps.  Would we put them on our next truck (if we ever get one)?  Darn right we would.” – Bill Billyard, 2000 Dodge Ram 3500, 2008 Palomino Winter Creek 115RS

“I have factory mud flaps from Chevy front and rear.  I would get both again.” – Damon Trumps, 2011 Silverado 2500HD, 1994 Lance 480

“The mud flaps on my Dodge dually are a Mopar product.  I’m happy that the previous owner had these installed when the truck was purchased new.  The idea of throwing all kinds of road debris on the underside of our camper does not appeal to me.  It still gets dirty, but not as bad if the flaps weren’t there.

I don’t have have front mud flaps, but may consider putting them on at some point.  There have been times of fresh road tar sticking to the lower fenders where mud flaps would have really helped.  So definitely, mud flaps are essential.

The rubber bed mat is also an important item to have for a camper.  I had considered doing a spray in bed liner, but at a cost of over $500 dollars, it did not seem worth it, especially when you never see it.  I found my bed mat at Camping World.  It was made to fit the Dodge bed for $49.

The camper stays well planted on the mat.  The only one time has the camper slid forward is when I severely braked to miss a deer.  Re-adjusting the camper was a lot easier than replacing headlights and front grills!” – Roger Odahl, 2008 Dodge Ram 3500, 2004 Eagle Cap 950

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“I have factory front and rear molded mud guards and Rock Tamer flaps on the rear of truck to protect towed trailers.  I definitely would have front and rear guards on all trucks, especially since we live in a northern environment with ice and snow.” – Carlton Basmajian, 2012 Ford F350, 2016, Wolf Creek 850

“We have the factory mud flaps, front and rear, and would get mud flaps on our next truck.” – Buzz and Sherri Merchlewitz, 1998 Dodge Ram 2500, 2015 Hallmark Ute

“Yes, I have both front and rear mud flaps.  The truck comes with them from the factory.” – Steven Lowery, 1999 Toyota Tacoma, 2010 Travel Lite 690FD

“The mud flaps I have on our truck are the factory mud flaps.  They are installed terribly.  They are attached right to the fenders with four 1/4-inch screws that are cheap looking.  I have been thinking of designing something better.  I have just never got around to it.” – James Tedford, 2012 Ram 3500HD, 2007 Arctic Fox 990

“I had the dealer install factory GMC mud flaps on the rear when I bought the truck because he offered a discount.  Other than that offer, I would not have gotten the mud flaps.  I suppose they help keep the mud and debris off the camper and are a good idea.  I’d probably do it again on the rear.” – David Miller, 2012 GMC 2500HD, 2012 Travel Lite SBRX890

“Yes, I do have mud flaps. I purchased DuraFlap brand for both front and rear.  I ordered standard length on the front and extra long on the rear.  If I were to do it over again, I would order extra long on the front as well.  I definitely have mud flaps on all my trucks.” – Matt Arnold, 2013 Ram 3500, 2016 Arctic Fox 990

“I have flaps on the front and rear.  Ford factory mud flaps are in the rear, and after market in the front.  The front flaps could be wider to protect the dually fender better.  I have always had flaps and always will.” – Klaus Jager, 2014 Ford F350, Lance 1131

“My truck did not come with flaps but needs them ASAP.  I contacted WeatherTech for the molded style, but they do not offer a product for this truck yet.  I’m on the mailing list for as soon as they do.

By the way, my truck has less than 2-inch clearance between the back edge of the fender well and the start of the side factory running boards.  There is a selection for this in the product compatibility search on their website.  When selected, it states this product is not yet available.” – Erik Russell, 2016 Ram 3500, 2001 Lance 1010

“I installed Husky Flaps, front and back.  The dually flaps cover both wheels.  The OEM GM dually flaps just covered the outside dual tire.” – George Visconti, 2015 GMC Sierra 3500HD, 2016 Arctic Fox 990

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“I have front and rear DuraFlap mud flaps on my truck.  I chose DuraFlap’s for many reasons; no drill installation, heavy rubber/polyethylene flap with polished stainless steel weights, and rain grooves to help with excess water/mud spray.  I wouldn’t own a truck without real mud flaps.  Those little splash guards I see on some trucks don’t do much for protection.” – Allen Jedlicki, 2012 GMC 2500HD, 2014 Wolf Creek 850SB

“Yes, I have full size anti-sail type flaps.  It covers both rear tires.  They are full width and top to bottom.  It keeps the back of the rig clean and protects the front of the 1967 CJ5 Jeep that we tow.” – Ron Meredith, 1994 Ford F350, 1991 Lance 835

“I wanted to put mud flaps on my F550.  I had mud flaps on my previous F350s and found lots of reasons to continue using them, especially since I pull a 14-foot motorcycle trailer behind my truck.  Then when I installed solar panels on the side of my trailer, it was something that was a must do.

My mud flaps are pretty simple.  I just rode down to the NAPA store, about 38 miles away, and got the width that was my wheel well for a dually.  I had measured the height from the ground, too.  I did have to notch them to fit the wheel well, as well as the exhaust.  I purchased the rubber ones, passing on the lighter vinyl/plastic ones.

Now, with multiple years of use, they are performing perfectly in minimizing the damage to my camper’s overhang as well as the front of my motorcycle trailer.” – Bryan Appleby, 2008 Ford F550, 2009 Lance 1191

“I have the stock factory (Ram logo) dually mud flaps.  I do not have front mud flaps, which has not been a problem.  If I had a Torklift Hidden Power, frame-mounted spare battery, I probably would get front mud flaps.” – Tom Miner, 2004 Dodge Ram 3500, 2005 Host Yukon 11.5 SS

“We can’t say enough good things about our Owens mud flaps.  We got them from the guys at Mudflaps.com in Colorado.  There is simple mounting and they’re built to last.  Because we have running boards and they do a good job, we don’t need front mud flaps.” – David Weaver, 2009 Dodge Ram 3500, 2006 Lance 845

“Yes, I have mud flaps in the front and rear.  It is especially important to have rear mud flaps on dual rear wheels.  Mine are made by WeatherTech.  I also have WeatherTech running boards.  I would have the same set-up on any future truck and camper combination.” – Ray Steinmeyer, 2007 GMC 3500, 2007 Host 115DS

“I installed custom fitted flaps front and rear when the truck was new.  I don’t know the brand, but they fastened on using the existing screws.  They save a lot on gravel, mud, and dirt wear on the truck and camper.  They will definitely be on my next truck, too.” – Randall Rice, 2012 GMC Sierra 3500HD, 2015 Bigfoot 2500 10.4

“I have the stock flaps front and rear that were on the truck when we bought it.  They are small in size and made of plastic.  I have always had mud flaps on my pickups, both front and rear.” – Mike Ricci, 2006 Chevy 2500 HD, 2006 Bigfoot 15C9.5 FS

“I have diamond plate mud flaps on the rear and diamond plate running boards on the truck.  The running board had a diamond plate flap on the front end.” – Chris O’Connor, 1986 Chevy K30, 1996 Fleetwood Caribou 11

“I have front and rear mud flaps that were purchased from the factory, so the fit is perfect.  And yes, I’d get mud flaps again.  In fact, I have them on both Subarus as well.” – Dave Riddle, 2015 Chevrolet 3500, 2006 Host Tahoe

“I ordered factory front and rear mud flaps when I ordered truck.  My previous F150 did not have mud flaps.  Mud and gravel were thrown on the cab steps and under the rear wheel wells.  I also ordered inner fender liners just to keep suspension a little cleaner.  I would definitely get them again. They are not that expensive.” – Dwight Norris, 2016 Ford F350, 2016 FWC Hawk

“I have factory mud flaps on the front and back.  The rear of the camper gets really bad on gravel and dirt roads.  Does anyone know if there is a way to keep that limited?” – Tom Elliott, 2007 Ram 2500, 1999 Lance 835 Lite

“I have front and rear mud flaps.  Custom diamond plate is on the front that is part of step along doors.  On the back, I’m not sure of the brand.  I would like them a little bigger on the back. I ‘d do it again for sure.” – David Vigal, 2006 Dodge Ram 3500, 2007 Arctic Fox 811

“The Tundra comes standard with front and rear mud flaps.  I also have a four-wheel drive Ford Ranger XLT that came standard with front and rear mud flaps.  Yes, my next truck will have mud flaps.” – Dave Scobie, 2007 Toyota Tundra, 2015 Outfitter Caribou lite 6.5 and a 2005 Ford Ranger, 1998 Roamin’ Chariot

“I have rear mud flaps from Big R farm supply and I am very happy with the purchase.  The front set are Ram factory flaps and they seem okay.” – Bill and Shellia Sargent, 2012 Ram 3500, 2009 Lance 971

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Dealer Inventory for Richard’s Boat and RV Center

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LANCASTER, CA | 661-951-9191 | DIRECTIONS | CONTACT | WEBSITE

Last Inventory Update: May 4, 2016

Always call ahead before visiting a dealership to confirm that posted truck camper inventory is in stock and on the lot.  Dealer inventory can change everyday as truck campers are delivered from the manufacturers and sold to customers.

NEW CAMPERS

2016 LANCE 825 [STOCK#172443]  NEW LISTING
The Lance 825 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 825 [STOCK#172444]  NEW LISTING
The Lance 825 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 865 [STOCK#3106] 
The Lance 865 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 865 [STOCK#172887] 
The Lance 865 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 1062 [STOCK#28] 
The Lance 1062 is a hard side, double-slide, dry bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 650 [STOCK#286]  SOLD
The Lance 650 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 855S [STOCK#172684] 
The Lance 855S is a hard side, single-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 850 [STOCK#172265]
The Lance 850 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 825 [STOCK#172864]
The Lance 825 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 LANCE 825 [STOCK#172266]
The Lance 825 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2015 LANCE 995 [STOCK#171912]
The Lance 995 is a hard side, single-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-1240 [STOCK#106200]
The Palomino SS-1240 is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-1240 [STOCK#106201]
The Palomino SS-1240 is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-1240 [STOCK#106202]
The Palomino SS-1240 is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-1240 [STOCK#106208]
The Palomino SS-1240 is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-550 [STOCK#105944]
The Palomino SS-550 is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-550 [STOCK#105954]  
The Palomino SS-550 is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 PALOMINO SS-550 [STOCK#105952]
The Palomino SS-550 is a pop-up truck camper.

2015 PALOMINO SS-1240 [STOCK#105745]
The Palomino SS-1240 is a pop-up camper.

Interested-Listed-Camper

USED CAMPERS

2009 LANCE 915 [STOCK#166015]
2003 LANCE 815 [STOCK#u815]

HOURS: Tuesday to Saturday 9:00am to 5:00pm

 

 

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Dealer Inventory for S.C.A.T.T. Recreation

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 ROSEVILLE, CA | 916-773-6614 | DIRECTIONS | CONTACT | WEBSITE

Last Inventory Update: May 4, 2016



Always call ahead before visiting a dealership to confirm that posted truck camper inventory is in stock and on the lot.  Dealer inventory can change everyday as truck campers are delivered from the manufacturers and sold to customers.

NEW CAMPERS

2016 NORTHSTAR 850SC [Stock#027075]
The Northstar 850SC is a pop-up, wet bath truck camper.

2016 NORTHSTAR LIBERTY [STOCK#7535]
The Northstar Liberty is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 NORTHSTAR TC650 [Stock#TC650]
The Northstar TC650 is a pop-up truck camper.

2015 NORTHSTAR 600SS [Stock#7336]
The Northstar 600SS is a pop-up camper.

2015 NORTHSTAR 650SC [Stock#7182] CLOSEOUT MODEL
The Northstar 650SC is a pop-up truck camper.

2016 ADVENTURER 86SBS [Stock#588-16]


The Adventurer 86SBS is a hard side, single-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 ADVENTURER 116DS [Stock#17569]
The Adventurer 116DS is a hard side, double-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 ADVENTURER 80RB [Stock#17504]
The Adventurer 80RB is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2015 ADVENTURER 86FB [Stock#17181-15] CLOSEOUT MODEL
The Adventurer 86FB is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 EAGLE CAP 995 [Stock#50569]  NEW LISTING
The Eagle Cap 995 is a hard side, single-slide, dry bath truck camper.

2016 EAGLE CAP 1200 [Stock#50552] 
The Eagle Cap 1200 is a hard side, triple-slide, dry bath truck camper.

2015 EAGLE CAP 1165 [Stock#50446]
The Eagle Cap 1165 is a hard side, triple-slide, dry bath truck camper.

2016 CIRRUS 800 [Stock#CIRRUSCAMPER] 
The Cirrus 800 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

2016 CIRRUS 800 [Stock#2016CIRRUSCAMPER] 
The Cirrus 800 is a hard side, non-slide, wet bath truck camper.

Interested-Listed-Camper

USED CAMPERS

2008 NORTHSTAR MC600 [STOCK#MC600]  NEW LISTING
2011 NORTHSTAR TC800 [STOCK#TC800]
2015 EAGLE CAP 960 [STOCK#AP960]
2007 EAGLE CAP 1160 [STOCK#P1160]  NEW LISTING
2012 LANCE 950S [STOCK#950S]  SOLD
2014 NORTHSTAR ARROW U [STOCK#2014ARROWU]  NEW LISTING

HOURS: Monday to Saturday 9:00am to 5:00pm

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2016 Eagle Cap 995 Review

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Truck Camper Magazine takes focus on the 2016 Eagle Cap 995, a hard side, single-slide, dry bath truck camper.  Is this enduring slide-out floor plan still a serious contender?

Eagle Cap 995 Review

Around the mid-2000s, the truck camper industry started to concentrate on slide-outs.  Up to that point, several manufacturers had designed, manufactured, and sold slide-out models, but the majority of manufacturers had been on the sidelines watching to see how the whole “truck camper with a slide” would work out.  Would they sell consistently?  Would they hold up structurally?

While some of the first slide-out models did have structural challenges, the overall message from the marketplace was clear; slide-outs were the future of hard side truck camper design.  Retail sales repeatedly proved the point, and dealers and consumers clamored for more.

In the wake of this new reality, fresh and exciting slide-out models began to appear.  Dinette only slides became full wall slide-outs.  One slide led to two, then three.  Basements rose from the floor, to the wheel wells, to the truck rails.  The use of computer modeling allowed for increasingly intricate floor plans leading to nothing less than a renaissance in truck camper design.

Over the following decade, many of these early slide out designs came and went.  Today, only handful of the first and second generation slide-out floor plans remain, refined and improved through years of feedback and model year updates.  For lack of a better description, these are the slide-out classics.

Eagle Cap 995 Camper

Debuting in 2007, the Eagle Cap 995 is, by any account, a slide-out classic.  The full-wall dinette, refrigerator, and pantry slide-out, the expansive rear kitchen, the huge dry bath, and north-south cabover result in a truck camper layout that’s sold well year, after year, after year.

Does the 995 still deserve consideration in an increasingly competitive marketplace?  It’s time to stop playing the Eagle Cap 995 track record, and put this celebrated stalwart through a 2016 Truck Camper Magazine review.  To conduct our formal exam, we went to D&H RV Center in Apex, North Carolina.

Floor Plan Evaluation

Eagle Cap 995 Floor Plan

Not that long ago, folks would walk into a truck camper like the Eagle Cap 995 and freak out at all the floor space.

The integration of a full-wall slide-out in a truck camper turned what had been channels and hallways into wide-open rooms.  For many, this was impossible to refuse.  Their future truck campers would be slide-out models from that moment forward.

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I remember the first time I walked into an Eagle Cap 995.  The first thing that struck me was the large kitchen and the angled wall with storage cabinetry and a huge dry bath.  Seven years later, that initial impression remains.  Together with the luxury materials and presentation Eagle Cap is known for, it’s no wonder this camper continues to do well in the marketplace.

For the floor plan evaluation, let’s start from the entry door and examine the passenger’s side kitchen.

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Now this is a serious truck camper kitchen; double basin sink, three burner gas range and oven, microwave, lots of storage, and two insulated windows.

Folks who enjoy meal preparation beyond sandwiches and one-pot meals should be very excited when they see the countertop layout, amenities, and storage on tap here.

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The standard microwave takes up some storage in the kitchen cabinetry, but this camper is not lacking in available storage.  The single upper kitchen cabinet features a built-in shelf and would be perfect for plates and dishes.

Eagle Cap 995 kitchen drawers

Above: Note the heavy duty ball-bearing guides on the four kitchen drawers

Under the gel coat fiberglass kitchen counter top are four pull-out drawers on ball-bearing metal guides.  This is a fantastic example of exactly the right type of storage opportunity in exactly the right place.  It’s not hard to imagine everyone keeping their silverware and cooking utensils in the top drawer.

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Above: The lower and upper kitchen cabinetry offers lots of storage in the Eagle Cap 995

Eagle Cap 995 counter extension

Above: Counter top extension, and room for a small trash can under the sink

Enhancing the already impressive counter top space is an extension that adds approximately 20% more meal prep territory.  The downside of this extension is that it crosses into the entry door area.  If you frequently cook when others are coming in and out of the unit, this could be a consideration.

Under the sink is a fantastic place for a small trash can.  Keeping your trash under the sink and out of the way is a subtle but important benefit of this kitchen layout.

Storage Wardrobes in Eagle Cap 995

Dead center in the main living area, the 2016 Eagle Cap 995 has a huge double door closet for hanging shirts and coats, storing camping gear, or other relatively large items.  Large interior storage opportunities like this are rare in truck campers.

The beauty of Eagle Cap’s wood cabinetry is really on display here and is sure to grab the attention of anyone who enters this camper.  This just doesn’t look like your typical truck camper.

What may also grab attention is the curious space over the bathroom door.  This space could be for air circulation or to save weight, but it certainly doesn’t improve the sense of auditory privacy one expects in a bathroom.

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Just under the large closet is a smaller cabinet area that could accommodate more gear, pots, pans, and food storage containers.  Below the smaller cabinet is the fuse box and a LP/CO detector.

Eagle-Cap 995 dinette and refrigerator

For 2015, Eagle Cap introduced modular and changeable seating options.  For example, a customer could get a traditional dinette, or opt for a sofa.  Then, down the line, that same customer could take out their modular dinette or sofa and install reclining theater seating.

Never before had a truck camper manufacturer offered the ability to customize their dinette and seating furniture with modular options.  Eagle Cap’s modular furniture captured the attention of TCM readers and won the Readers’ Choice Innovation of the Year award in 2014.

In the Eagle Cap 995, the dinette area is available as a traditional dinette, sofa, or reclining theater seating.  The camper under review had the traditional dinette installed, so that’s what we evaluated.

Eagle Cap 995 modular dinette

The fabric, fit, and finish of the modular dinette was exceptional.  The dream dinette table with solid-surface fiberglass table looked beautiful and functioned flawlessly to quickly convert into a bed.

Sitting in the dinette, the backs of the seats and the seats themselves felt a little short and narrow.  In all fairness, I am over 6-feet tall and prefer taller and deeper dinette seats.  This is the kind of thing – like sitting on the toilet and standing in the shower stall – that you have to experience and evaluate in person.

Eagle Cap 995 dinette as bed

When made into a bed, the rear-back dinette cushions – the only dinette cushions that are removable – were large enough to cover the table, but left a space on either side.  The middle part of the dinette bed did not extend all the way to the outside wall, or even with the inside dinette seat cushions.  This would be a fine place to sleep, but it might feel a bit narrow, especially for more than one person.

Dinette drawers in Eagle Cap 995

The drawers under the dinette seats pull out smoothly and offer a welcome amount of convenient storage.  It’s truly remarkable how much storage this camper has.  An owner would need to be very careful not to bring too much stuff.  Having done exactly that ourselves, we know how easy it is to do.

Eagle Cap 995 12-volt and USB and 110 outlets

Behind the dinette seat is a 12-volt and USB charging center and 110-volt outlets.  This is a very welcome location for charging laptops, smartphones, and cameras while sitting in the dinette.

Eagle Cap 995 refrigerator and pantry

Eagle Cap installed a 7-cubic foot refrigerator in the Eagle Cap 995.  Right next to the refrigerator is a large pantry with movable shelves.  Given this pantry’s proximity to the cabover, it might also be used for clothing and gear.  Whatever it’s used for, the size of this storage opportunity and the flexibility of the movable shelves is terrific.  We wish we had a storage opportunity like this in our truck camper.

7-cubic foot refrigerator in Eagle Cap 995

Look at the food storage of this monster refrigerator.  Part of me wonders why anyone needs this much refrigerated food storage on the road, but I’m sure many folks would answer, “beer” and, “rally parties” and, “because we like to eat”.  I hear that.

Eagle Cap 995 sink

Above: The dry bath feels very residential for a single-slide truck camper

The dry bath in the 995 is large and spacious; more like a bathroom in a small apartment than anything you’d expect in a single-slide truck camper.  Adding to the residential aesthetic, the shower features its own hot and cold water controls and a shower curtain rod that extends and retracts for a larger or smaller shower stall area.

Eagle Cap 995 bathroom

Above: The sink, medicine cabinet, and foot-flush toilet

Like a small residential bathroom, the sink counter is tight and will require careful positioning of toothbrushes, hair brushes, and other common toiletries.  If this were our camper, I would also look for ways to move the toilet paper holder from the door to somewhere inside the bathroom proper.  That should be an easy mod.

It’s really something to see the same gorgeous flooring in the bathroom as in the main living area.  The wood and mirrored medicine cabinet above the sink is very attractive and will be much appreciated for shaving and grooming while offering much-needed toiletry storage.

Eagle Cap 995 shower stall is tall

Above: The fiberglass shower stall has an extendable rod to give you significantly more room while showering

Eagle Cap 995 Queen Bed

The cabover bedroom in the Eagle Cap 995 is bright and open with windows on both sides of the camper.  Adding to the sense of spaciousness is a Heki skylight, large mirrored wardrobe, and a mirrored driver’s side cabinet.  In person, the Eagle Cap 995 cabover looks and feels fantastic.

Eagle Cap 995 cabover entry

The large dry bath in the Eagle Cap 995 does defeat some of the normal advantages of a north-south cabover.  First, the entry to the cabover is on the driver’s side and is otherwise blocked by the dry bath wall.  If the person sleeping on the passenger’s side wants to get out, they need to crawl over their spouse.

Eagle Cap 995 television

Above: The dry bath wall and television as seen from the cabover

Second, the cabover storage greatly favors the passenger’s side as the driver’s side is utilized for the aforementioned cabover entry and exit area.

Eagle Cap 995 wardrobe in bedroom

Again, the wall that blocks the spouse escape route is what makes the enormous dry bath possible.  The missing driver’s side storage is also part of this design.  If you would prefer a more traditional cabover layout, consider the Eagle Cap 850 or Eagle Cap 960, but you’ll be giving up the large dry bath.  In truck campers, everything is a trade-off.

Specifications

Specifications
Dry Weight 3,618 pounds
Wet Weight* 4,681 pounds
Floor Length 10’2″
Overall Length 18’5″
Width 96″
Interior Height 78″
Exterior Height 105″
Center of Gravity 49″
Truck Type Long Bed

Adventurer Manufacturing, the parent company of Eagle Cap, weighs every truck camper at the end of their production line and documents that data in a log book at the factory, and on a rear camper window.  That said, the 3,618 weight provided by Adventurer Manufacturing is a base weight without options.

Eagle Cap 995 width

Every specification of the Eagle Cap 995 is full-size or near full-size.  The 96-inch (2.44 meter) width is 6-inches short of the maximum Federally-allowed width for a truck camper in the United States.

With a wheel well height basement, the exterior height measures at 105-inches, 7-inches lower than the rail-height Eagle Cap 1160, 1165, and 1200 models.  Interestingly, the 78-inch (6.5-feet) interior height is actually 2-inches taller than the triple-slide 1165 and 1200.

Eagle Cap 995 truck height

Above: The relatively short rear skirt allows for easier towing

Finally, the shorter rear skirt of the 10-foot 2-inch floor length might make the 995 a better candidate for towing than its larger 11-foot plus siblings.  The longer the skirt, the longer the towing extension will need to be.  Toy pullers take note.

Capacities

Capacities
Fresh 41 gallons
Grey 34 gallons
Black 22 gallons
Water Heater 6 gallons
Propane Tanks 2x 20 pounds
Batteries Two Batteries

The holding tanks in the 995 offer 41 gallons of fresh, 34 gallons of grey, and 22 gallons of black.  Where the larger Eagle Cap models offer upwards of 50% more capacity per tank (60 gallons of fresh in the 1160 and 1165), the 995 provides a sensible balance between tank capacity and weight.

From experience, the 995 holding tanks should provide a camping couple with at least 6 to 7 days of off-grid camping.  If you are alone and/or practice extreme conservation, you could possibly stretch that range to 10 days or more.

20-pound propane tanks in the Eagle Cap 995

Above: Two 20-pound vertical propane tanks are easy to exchange

The two 20-pound vertical propane tanks and exterior storage compartment for two Group 27 batteries is excellent.  Owners of this unit can option or install a 100-watt or better solar panel creating our favorite power trio: two batteries, all-LED interior lights, and solar power.  Go for AGM batteries and you’ll have essentially the same set-up we have, and love.

Eagle Cap 995 Battery Box

Above: Two Group 27 batteries will fit in the exterior storage compartment

Overall, the specifications and capacities of the 2016 Eagle Cap 995 offer exactly what most long-distance and/or long-term truck campers want and need.  This camper is ready for a coast-to-coast expedition and ready to go to Alaska and back.

Wet Weight Calculation

No matter how big or how small the camper you’re considering, it’s important to run the wet weight numbers before making a purchase.  With that in mind, let’s run the numbers on the 995 using Truck Camper Magazine’s standard wet weight calculation.

Base Dry Weight – special factory order only

The following truck camper starts with a base dry weight.  It is extremely unlikely that you will see a 995 with this weight unless you factory order one as a base unit without a single option.

Eagle Cap Weight Sticker for the 995

Eagle Cap 995: dry weight, 3,618 pounds + 41 gallons fresh, 341.9 pounds + 6 gallon full hot water heater, 50 pounds + 2x 20-pound full propane tanks, 40 pounds + 2 batteries, 130 pounds + stuff, 500 pounds = 4,680.9 pounds

Option-Loaded Review Unit

The inside weight sticker in the 2016 Eagle Cap 995 under review listed the dry weight with factory options at 4,020 pounds.  The 402 pounds of option weight is right on target for a loaded 10-foot luxury hard side truck camper.  Here is the standard wet weight calculation starting with Adventurer’s provided weight.

Eagle Cap 995: dry weight, 4,020 pounds + 41 gallons fresh, 341.9 pounds + 6 gallon full hot water heater, 50 pounds + 2x 20-pound full propane tanks, 40 pounds + 2 batteries, 130 pounds + stuff, 500 pounds = 5,081.9 pounds

Truck Recommendations

When it comes to the larger slide-out truck campers, almost everyone understands that they need a one ton truck, preferably a dually.  In fact, we never recommend a slide-out truck camper on anything but a dual rear wheel truck.

We have several friends who have slide-out campers on single rear wheel trucks, and they all wish they had the stability and increased margin of safety of a dually when driving with the camper loaded.

Eagle Cap 995 Drivers Side

The 5,081.9 pound wet weight of the fully-loaded Eagle Cap 995 under review is an easy carry for a carefully selected one ton dually truck.  The bad news, if you can call it that, is that this truck absolutely requires a dually truck to be properly payload matched.  To our knowledge, no single rear wheel one ton truck has over 5,000 pounds of payload.

Payload matching the 2016 Eagle Cap 995 under review would be as simple as finding a new or late model one ton dually with 5,081.9 pounds of payload, or more.  If you buy new, tell your truck dealer that you need at least 5,100 pounds of payload, have them spec out a truck, and then locate or special order a truck that meets those specifications.

We always recommend special ordering as it allows you to maximize the payload of the truck while dialing in the exact packages, options, and exterior color you want.

Ram 3500 and Eagle Cap 995

D&H RV Center had a 2015 Ram 3500 dually with a 6.4L HEMI and loaded the 995 on the truck.  The Ram featured an impressive 5,913 pound payload capacity, more than enough to carry the fully-loaded and wet Eagle Cap 995.  D&H RV Center sells payload matched truck and camper packages, a service that we believe has industry-wide potential.

Ram Truck Payload Sticker

Above: The payload sticker on the 2015 Ram 3500 6.4L HEMI

If you buy a new or used truck, make sure you check the yellow payload sticker inside the truck driver’s side door before committing to a purchase.  Never assume when it comes to payload capacity.

The Verdict

There can be no doubt as to why the Eagle Cap 995 has endured as a best seller.  The full-wall slide-out, gourmet chef-ready kitchen, cavernous dry bath, wide assortment of impressive storage opportunities, and the sheer luxury of the interior presentation leave no doubt.  On paper and in person, this camper is a stunner.

Reading through our con list below, these really are nit picks for what is otherwise a rock solid and proven truck camper design.  Put another way, the pros greatly out weight the cons on the 995.  Nowhere in the Eagle Cap design could we find a deal breaker.  From the specifications, to the capacities, to the floor plan, the 2016 Eagle Cap 995 shows us why it’s still here, and still a top choice for many.

Pros
Fantastic kitchen design for meal preparation
Modular dinette-area furniture: dinette, sofa, or recliners
Huge dry bath with separate shower controls
Bright cabover with two windows and a Heki skylight
Excellent storage opportunities throughout
Ideal specs and capacities for long distance travel

Cons
Kitchen counter extension crosses entry door
Dinette seating feels short and narrow, and makes narrow bed
Space above bathroom door seems excessive
Limited bathroom counter space
Cabover exit requires spouse climb-over
Cabover storage favors passenger’s side

Model Information
2016 Eagle Cap 995
MSRP: $36,505
Warranty: One year bumper-to-bumper, three-year structural

Adventurer LP (ALP)
3303 West Washington Avenue
Yakima, Washington 98903

Phone: 509-895-7064
Contact Adventurer MFG about the Eagle Cap 995
Web: http://www.amlrv.com/eagle-cap-truck-campers/

 

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Portable Air Compressors Go Where

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In July of 2012, truck camper rally organizer, Mike Tassinari (aka Mikeee), took Angela and I out onto Sandy Neck Beach Park in West Barnstable, Massachussets for our first ever truck camper beach driving experience.  Mikeee believed it was criminal that we had yet to drive a camper onto the sand, and willing to show us how it’s done with his rig.  Brave man.

Sandy Neck Beach has a convenient and well designed permanent air station for airing down before entering the beach and airing back up for traveling the roadways again.  On our way in, Mikeee showed us how to air down his truck wheels using his preferred Staun deflators.

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The brass Staun deflators fit the tire valve stem and automatically deflate the tires to a set pressure.

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Mikeee explained that the deflators made airing down not only faster and easier, but more accurate.

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Mikeee also showed us the valve extension system that allows him to access the inside rear dually tire.

He told us that he likes this system the best because if one of the braided extensions bursts or breaks you will not lose tire pressure.  Down the inside of this braided extension is a hardened wire.

When you put your air chuck on the end of the extension, that air chuck pushes that hardened wired backwards and pushes the truck rim valve stem inwards allowing air to enter that tire.  Removing the air chuck lets that hardened wire go forward and your valve stem now is sealed in the out position.

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Without this extension system, it would be very difficult to quickly air up and down the inside dually.

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Once the tires were at Mikeee’s preferred air pressure, he put the rig into four-wheel drive low and drove the rig onto the sand.  As he drove, he explained what to do and, more importantly, what not to do.

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“If you’re on soft sand, don’t stop.  You’ll get stuck.  If you get stuck, don’t floor it.  You’ll get more stuck.  And don’t even think about getting on the beach without the required recovery gear.  You’ll get stuck, and then require a very expensive tow.”

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After suitably freaking me out, Angela took the wheel first.  Angela is always ready for adventure, and alarmingly fearless.  With Mikeee sitting in the back seat, she aimed the truck for the tire ruts and kept her speed slow and steady.  I was very pleased when the truck made it’s way down the beach and didn’t get stuck.  Maybe Angela and I could do this…

“Now change lanes!” Mikeee insistently instructed from the back seat.

Beach-Driving-To-Beach Sandy Neck Beach driving in the summer

With that, Angela turned the wheel out of the ruts and into the soft sand.  Sitting the in truck you could feel the loose sand shifting under the truck’s wheels.  There was never a sense of losing control, but no one would mistake this for pavement.  A moment later, Angela found another set of tire ruts and continued, slow and steady, down the beach.

“Okay Gordon, your turn.” said Mikeee.  Back seat drivers!

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Taking the wheel, the truck felt more confident than I expected driving on the tire ruts.  When Mikeee had me change lanes, there was a moment of soft sand dancing, but that abated when we settled back into the tire ruts.  When Mikeee pointed me to the open sand, the rig performed beautifully.  Again, slow and steady was the rule, but we never got stuck, and I never felt out of control.

Beach tire inflate back up Inflating tires Sandy Neck Beach

Driving off the beach, we approached the air station to re-inflate the tires.  This was no different than inflating car tires at a gas station.  Mikeee used a tire pressure gauge designed for the higher air pressures used in pickup trucks.  After about ten minutes of airing up and checking air pressures, we were ready to go.

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As we were wrapping up, I asked, “What would we do if there wasn’t a permanent air station Mikeee?”  Mikeee showed us his portable air compressor, a Craftsman single-cylinder, two horse power unit.  “We would use this,” he answered.  One thing about Mike is that he is prepared for almost anything.  His camper is something between a Home Depot and a Camping World, on wheels.  Rumor has it he travels with two grills, an ice maker, and an electric chainsaw.

Beach driving on Sandy Neck Beach

I was reminded of our beach camping drive with Mikeee by a Question of the Week suggestion by reader Stu Banham.

Here’s Stu’s email:

“I’m dreaming up the perfect truck and camper build in my mind.  In a perfect world, that would be a 2017 Tacoma TRD Pro with a Four Wheel Camper on the back.  That would get me where I want to go.  As part of this dream build, I’d like to know where Truck Camper Magazine readers mount their air compressors.”

This week’s Question of the Week is, “Where do mount your air compressor?”  In addition, we want to know what make and model air compressor you have, and why you need an air compressor.

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The Biggest Truck Camping Family On Earth

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The Haymore family meets off-road every year and competes for who’s got the best rig.  If there’s a family that has more truck campers, or is more passionate about truck camping, we haven’t found them.

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In the near-decade that we have been publishing Truck Camper Magazine, we can count on one hand the number of families with more than one truck camper.  We know a few of father and son truck camper owners, but never had we heard of father, son, son, and son – and a couple uncles – all having truck campers.  That is, until now.

Bruce Haymore raised his four sons on regular hunting, fishing, and traveling trips in a 1968 Siesta hard-side pop-up truck camper he bought in 1980.  These truck camping adventures created some of the best memories the family had during those formative years.

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It would be an understatement to say that the Haymore sons followed in their father’s tire tracks to become truck campers.  Jeremy, Jason, and Neal Haymore not only own truck campers, but have upgraded, modded, and remodeled their rigs in ways their dad probably could not have imagined thirty-six years ago.  Jason has even remodeled the 1968 Siesta ensuring its status as a Haymore family heirloom.

To get the complete picture on this extraordinary truck camping family, we asked each of the Haymores to submit their side of the story.  You’re about to find out how this all got started, how it led to the biggest truck camping family on Earth, and which brother thinks he’s dad’s favorite.

Bruce Haymore, 2002 Alaskan Camper

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Above: Bruce Haymore with his Alaskan Camper and GMC truck

I was born in 1952.  In 1956, my Dad bought a 1956 Ford pickup truck.  He built a camper for the truck and off we went hunting, fishing, and traveling.  Then, in 1963, he bought a 1963 Ford truck and built a new camper.  I was old enough to help with the construction.

I purchased a 1968 Siesta camper in 1980.  This camper was on a 1972 Ford and then later a 1987 Ford.  My four boys grew up camping with the Siesta.  I gave the truck and camper to my son Jason in 2001.  That camper has been in our family for 36 years.

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Above from left to right: Jeremy (tallest), Nathan (in overalls), Neal (in red shirt), Jason (cowboy shirt)

Some of our happiest days are camping, so I am not surprised that my boys are also into truck campers.  The boys plan most of the trips now.

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I enjoy meeting up with them.  I also get to see all my grandkids!

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I chose the Alaskan for the quality of their construction and their willingness to build what I wanted.  I had the aluminum bed built to match the camper and truck.  I wanted the aluminum storage bed for space and a maintenance free life.

Alaskan camper top up

The Alaskan was originally on a 2000 GMC, and then a 2007 GMC.  When the 2007 GMC wears out, I will mount the Alaskan on a new truck.

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I enjoy time with my family, relaxing, and seeing America.

Bruce’s Rig Information
Truck: 2007 GMC Sierra 3500, Regular Cab, 4×4, Diesel, Dual Rear Wheel
Camper: 2002 Alaskan 10-foot cabover
Gear: Cab and chassis truck with a custom aluminum bed

Jason Haymore, 1968 Siesta Camper

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After I returned home from a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, my dad gave me his 1987 Ford F250 and the family 1968 Siesta telescopic camper (I think because he likes me more than my brothers).  I was 21 at the time.

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Above from left to right: Neal (taking a drink), Bruce (sitting in the chair), and Jason (with camera in hand)

The Siesta is a hard side pop-up camper that we had all camped in as kids.  There was a time in my dad’s life when his construction company was slow.  During that time, he bought old damaged campers, repaired them, and sold them for a profit.  The Siesta was one of those campers, only it was so unique he decided to keep it.

After my wife and I first got married, we drove our truck and camper all over the place and had tons of fun trips.  We were both in school and just jumped in the camper and took off every chance we got.  It was much easier to do then, having no kids.

After college, I was accepted to law school in Indiana.  I took the camper with me and stored it in a wooded area behind my house.  One day I went out to look it over and found mice and mildew inside.  My heart sank and I decided then and there to do a complete rebuild.

Both my Dad and my wife cautioned me about spending more time and money on such an old camper.  I sheepishly admit that I looked around at buying a newer camper, but I couldn’t find anything that matched what I liked about the one I already had.  A hard side telescoping camper with a U-shaped dinette and oven just doesn’t exist anymore.  Even outside of the family connection, I determined I had a gem and would never let it go.

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Above: Jason restored the 1968 Siesta, pictures above of the new interior

I worked late nights and weekends restoring the camper.  I tore off all the old contact paper on the walls and repainted.  I put in a new floor, new lights, new screens, new countertops, new cabinet doors, built drawers, put a bunkbed over the dinette, added an electric water pump, fresh water tank monitor, fixed all the dings I could on the aluminum siding, and painted the exterior to match the truck.  In all, it took me about six months.

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After restoring the camper inside and out, my dad and his wife, Michele, drove his Alaskan rig all the way from Utah to Indiana to see my handiwork and go on a weekend trip with my family.  He was proud of the work I had done and that gave me a great sense of satisfaction.  He is a master craftsman and getting his approval on the project was a big deal.

That particular trip was one of the most memorable trips of my life.  I couldn’t believe they would drive that far just to camp with us for the weekend.  We drove up to Michigan and saw the Great Lakes.  While we were there we chartered a boat and caught more salmon than we could eat the following year.

After law school, I moved my little family back to Utah to start a law practice.  I have very vivid memories of driving with my son across country in February and staying in the camper along the way.

When I originally started the rebuild, I convinced my wife (and myself) that I would rebuild the camper and we would be all set for another thirty years.  But after finishing the rebuild, I’ve spent countless hours on new projects and repairs.

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Above: Jason’s kids enjoying camping in the Siesta

At this point I’m sure I could have won Truck Camper Magazine’s mod contests more than a dozen times and my beautiful wife is no longer foolish enough to believe that I am really going to just do one more project.  But in my defense, most of the updates have come because of a trade-up in trucks.

After being back in Utah a couple of years, my wife convinced me to sell the 1987 Ford F250 and get something a little newer with an extended cab to better fit our family.  Selling the old family truck was like selling an old family friend.  I was just as attached to it as I was the camper.  And I had painted the camper to match that truck!  But the truck was twenty-five years old, becoming a maintenance problem, and obviously didn’t accommodate my family of six.  My kids and I still salute and place our hands over our hearts (mostly in jest) when we pass the dealership that took it as a trade-in.  My wife is glad the gas guzzling maintenance hog is gone.

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Above: Jason’s new Ford F350 with the Siesta camper

The most important aspect of selecting the new truck was finding one that would fit my camper.  Before making the final purchase, I made dozens of measurements and I was sure I had it all figured out.  But the first time I went to put the camper on my newer Ford F350, I was crushed when it didn’t fit.  I knew I had to add about five inches to the bottom of the camper so that the cab overhang portion of the camper would clear the taller new Ford cabs.  I built a five inch plywood platform for that purpose, but I was shocked when the last two feet of the camper were too wide to slide between the tailgate posts.

I worked straight through that night and rebuilt the backend of the camper to make it three inches narrower.  I got it to fit on the truck with one-half inch to spare just in time to get us on the road the following day to meet my brothers for our annual St. George winter trip.

The next project started when my older brother, Jeremy, took a three-way refrigerator out of his camper and installed a compressor fridge.  He kindly gave me the old three-way refrigerator and I installed it into the Siesta.  That project required rebuilding some of the cabinets, installing a new countertop, some rewiring, and some tricky engineering to get the refrigerator to vent whether the camper is in the up or down position.

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Then, I was forced to rebuild the lift system last fall when I was loading for a trip to Sand Hollow State Park to meet my brothers.  When I attempted to pop up the camper, one of the cables that raises and lowers the roof broke and the front portion of the camper came crashing down.

Determined not to humiliate myself by camping in a tent in front of my brothers (or worse, by showing up towing my wife’s fifth wheel), I again started working around the clock to get the camper ready in time for the trip.  I replaced all the cables and replaced and reinforced all the pulleys.  But, to my dismay, the jack that ran the whole mechanism was so badly warn that it could barely lift the top.  I got the Siesta to Sand Hollow, but my brothers and my Dad had to help me pop it up by pushing on the upper portion for lift.  They still haven’t let me hear the end of that.

I am happy to report that, after a trip to a machine shop with my brother-in-law (an expert machinist), I have a completely rebuilt jack and the camper slides up and down like it was coated in greased butter!  I was pleased to demonstrate my handiwork to my family on our last winter St. George trip where no help was needed to set-up.

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Recently I replaced the wooden platform that I was using as a spacer between the bed of the truck and camper with a steel frame complete with sliding drawers that run the length of the bed.  The steel frame is permanently bolted to the bottom of the camper.

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Above: Jason designed sliding drawers that run the length of the truck’s bed for storage

I also got an idea from the Truck Camper Magazine mod contest to relocate the battery to the space between the bottom portion of the camper and the truck bed to save cabinet space inside.  My next project will be to build some extra storage compartments that will fit between the bed rails of the truck and the camper.  Then, I’ll truly be done with my mods, even though my wife doesn’t believe me.

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Each time I work on this camper or take it out for a trip I feel like I’m caring for a sacred piece of family history.  When our youngest brother, Nathan, unexpectedly died in a car accident, all of us became aware of what our relationships really mean to each other.  One of the most important parts of life is the relationships we build.  And this camper has facilitated a whole lot of that for us.

Jason’s Rig Information
Truck: 2004 Ford F350, diesel, extended cab, long bed, 4X4, single rear wheel
Camper: 1968 Siesta Telescopic Camper
Tie-Downs and Turnbuckles: Custom Made
Suspension: N/A
Gear: Honda eu2000 generator, Small window mount Frigidair air conditioner unit

Jeremy Haymore, 2015 Four Wheel Camper Grandby

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I learned truck camping from my father, Bruce Haymore, who bought a 1968 Siesta hard sided pop-up camper when I was a kid.  I am the oldest of four boys and we camped in the Siesta truck camper for as far back as I can remember.  It was a source of many happy memories including hunting, camping, and fishing with my dad and brothers.

The Siesta camper was then given to my brother, Jason, who remodeled it.  He had to make it fit newer truck styles, and updated the interior.  I still think about how hard it was to crank the Siesta hard top up and down.  The original pulley system is still working for his family thirty years later.

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Now, as adults, all of my brothers and dad own truck campers.  Jason owns the original Siesta.  Neal owns a Four Wheel Camper Grandby and had a Four Wheel Camper used by four family members before that.  I bought a 2013 Four Wheel Camper Hawk, and just upgraded to a 2015 Four Wheel Camper Grandby.  My father’s custom Alaskan setup is probably the nicest of them all.  I also have two uncles who have Four Wheel Camper Hawks.

When I recently visited Four Wheel Campers in Woodland, California, they were actually building a camper for my uncle right then.  They first thought I was him and had arrived too early.

My most memorable experience in the original Siesta was camping around St. George, Utah.  As a family, we have been fortunate enough to camp at the same location for over thirty years.  My grandfather originally camped there.  He then took my dad who started taking me.  Now I take my kids there.  Four generations have camped in the same location.

We do meet at other camping areas during the year, but the St. George campsite has been a favorite for a very long time.  We have been so grateful to the property owners who have allowed us to continue camping in this spot as it has changed hands over the many years we have been there.

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Above: ATVing is a fun part of their family get togethers

The family reunions are a week of riding horses, ATVs, hunting, hiking and spending time together.  There is always a look at everyone’s new camper updates and the unspoken contest of which camper performs the best.  Many trucks and campers have been sold over the years after they did not match up with the competition.

My two brothers and I are small business owners.  This has made it easier to get time away from work.  To minimize travel time, we try to pick places that are equidistant from all of us.   However, over the years it has taken monumental efforts to get some of us out of college or professional school to attend the reunions.

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Above: Jeremy’s Four Wheel Hawk, now upgraded to a Four Wheel Grandby

I often go camping with my four kids and my wife.  I frequently meet up with my dad and two brothers in our travels.  I camp nearly every month, even during the winter.  Additionally, we have several one or two week camping trips each year beyond our weekend trips.

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Above: The Four Wheel Camper Grandby with a front dinette allows for four kids and two adults to sleep

One of the main reasons we switched from a Four Wheel Camper Hawk (rollover couch) to a Four Wheel Camper Grandby (front dinette) was to find places for everyone to sleep.  In the Grandby, we sleep four kids on the overhead king sized bed, and my wife and I on the fold out dinette bed.  It works out really great.  We also have a travel trailer that we customized for one to two week off-the-grid locations if we want more space.

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Above: Two 6-volt AGM batteries, 250 watts solar on the roof and 135 watts on a portable solar panel keep Jeremy and his family dry camping for a long time

We almost always dry camp in Idaho, Utah, or Nevada.  We are starting to look at places in Oregon, Montana, and California to visit next.   My dream is to take a summer and visit Alaska.  I also want to tour around the United States and Canada.

We tow a cargo trailer mainly for ATVs and motorcycles.  I also load it with Boy Scout equipment for campouts.  I’ve been the Scoutmaster in my local area for seven years.  The Four Wheel Camper Hawk has been very helpful in our Boy Scout adventures.  We go on a camp-out nearly ever month and a week of scout camp in the summer.

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Above: The storage, compressor fridge, and kitchen area in Jeremy’s Four Wheel Camper Grandby

The camper stores a lot of our food and water, gives us light at night, stores gear, and helps out with many of our needs.  With my solar setup, I can run my upright compressor fridge and ARB fridge/freezer for an entire week at scout camp.  We have cold food all week without any ice.  It works great!

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Above: The Grandby at the St. George, Utah camp-out

Just being in the forest or desert and traveling is a big stress reliever for me.  I have a stressful job as an Emergency Room physician and this helps me relax.  I also love any chance to camp with my children and get them away from the television and electronics.

My real plans are to raise my kids and teach them about camping and nature the same way it has been passed down to me.

Jeremy’s Rig Information
Truck: 2015 Chevy Silverado 3500 Z71, Crew Cab, Long Bed, SRW, 4×4, Diesel
Camper: 2015 Four Wheel Camper Grandby with front dinette
Tie Downs: Four Wheel Camper Internal tie-downs with aftermarket turnbuckles
Gear: 250 watts solar on the roof, 135 watts portable solar panel, 2 6-volt AGM batteries, trimetric monitor, updated roof lift struts, pull-out facet

The factory installed Four Wheel Camper options include a front dinette, king slide, exterior lighting package, Yakima roof rack, LED flood lights, compressor fridge, hot water heater, front dinette seating, and fiberglass exterior.

Neal Haymore, 1997 Four Wheel Camper Grandby

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My father is one of thirteen kids and is very competitive with his brothers.  They grew up camping and hunting and still go to this day.  They would always try and one up the other with trucks and campers.  One would buy a new and more powerful truck and pass them going up a hill.  Once the loser returned home, a new rig would be in the works.

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Above: The 1990 Ford F250 and Four Wheel Camper Grandby

At the age of 14, I told my uncle to call me if he ever wanted to sell his truck and camper.  Four years later, he was getting a new truck and camper and offered to sell me his at well below market price.  He sold me his 1990 Ford F250 and Four Wheel Camper Grandby for a package deal of $5,000.  I was up there the next weekend – after having sold my current truck – and emptied out my savings account.  I had that rig for fifteen years.

I was a senior in high school when I first got my truck camper rig.  Showing up for dates and driving a truck camper rig to school and back was not a great option as you can imagine.  For the first six months I had it, I would take the camper on and off when I wanted to use it; about once a month.  Eventually I got tired of loading and unloading the camper and talked my dad into giving me his old pick-up bed trailer.

The old pick-up bed trailer was the same width as the truck and had great ground clearance to use as a make shift camper trailer.  It had 6,000 pound axles, and the same lug pattern as the truck.  The spare tires fit both rigs.

Anywhere the truck would go, the trailer would follow.  If the truck could get up the side of the mountain, the trailer and Four Wheel Camper would make it as well.  It was an overland trailer before I even really knew what that was.

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Above: Neal towed the Four Wheel Camper and put his dirt bikes in the back of his truck

I only brought dirt bikes, which I loaded in the bed of my truck.  This is a little backward from how most people use truck campers, but it worked well for me for about ten years.  Then I started to restore the old Ford and turn it back into a full-time camping rig, just like it was used twenty-six years ago by my uncle.

That Grandby was owned by four different members of my family since it was bought new.  I purchased it from my uncle in 1999, and traded to my brother for a deer rifle in 2005.  He then traded to my dad, and I found out it was listed for sale on a local online forum and bought it back from him three years ago.  Just recently, I sold it.

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Above: Neal’s new compressor refrigerator

I just bought a new Four Wheel Camper Grandby because I ended up finding a very good deal on a much newer one.  I enjoyed the old one, but it it was time for an upgrade.  In the month or so I’ve owned the new Granby, I have added two 100 amp hour batteries, a charge converter, LED lights, and compressor refrigerator.  I have an oven and few other items that I will be putting in the new camper as well.

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The picture above is from the trip I took to pick up my new camper.  My older brother, Jeremy, who lives in Idaho, saw this Grandby on Wander the West.  I purchased it after looking at the photos on the internet, sight unseen.

The person I bought it from lived about 90 miles away from my brother Jeremy.  The seller delivered it to his house where it stayed until I could make the trip from Las Vegas to pick it up.  I had sold my old Grandby in Salt Lake City, Utah, so I towed up the old camper (seen in the photo) on the trailer and dropped it off at my other brother, Jason’s house.  It ended up being about a 1,400 mile road trip to get the campers swapped around.

I want a camping rig that I can get further up the mountains then the next guy and get some peace and quiet outside of cell reception.  Having to pay for a campsite means I didn’t look hard enough to find a remote location.

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We camp at least once a year for a week in Utah, Arizona, and Nevada.  The spot we camp is down about ten miles of dirt road.  There are a few streams there that are normally only a foot deep and about ten to twenty feet across.

I have purchased a few off-road guide books that cover Nevada, Utah, and northern Arizona.  They have given us some great insights on where to camp.  Most of the time I try and look for places within two to four hours of my house.  It depends on the time of year and direction we try and take.

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Almost all of our camping involves meeting up with my brothers and dad.  Of course all the kids come along as well.  The wives camp about half the time with us.  On the last trip, we had almost twenty people plus three horses, three four wheelers, three motorcycles and a UTV to keep us busy for the week.

Neal’s Rig Information
Truck: 1990 Ford F250, Regular Cab, Long Bed, Single Rear Wheel, 4×4, Gas
Camper: 1997 Four Wheel Camper Grandby
Tie-Downs and Turnbuckles: Eye bolts and turnbuckles directly to the bed
Suspension: Camper package directly from Ford that includes sway bar and added leaf spring.  I also added an additional leaf spring in the front end to level it out and to fit 33 x12.50 inch tires.
Gear: All LED lights, catalytic heater, new Dometic 65l compressor fridge, SHURflo Everpure water purification system with 12 volt pump,  2 Group 31 100 amp hour Sears Platinum batteries, Progressive Dynamics 60 amp power converter with charge wizard, off-road step bumper with rear LED flood lights, Garmin 760 RV GPS with back-up camera

 

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Truck Campers Get Pumped For Air Compressors

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Truck campers who venture off-road often need to deflate their tires to maximize traction and avoid sinking into loose beach sand, trail dirt, and mud.  Upon returning to pavement, deflated truck tires need to be accurately re-inflated for safety, proper tire wear, and fuel mileage.

Since installed air stations are not found at every beach and trail head, truck campers often bring their own air compressors.  Looking for an air compressor solution for his dream Four Wheel Camper rig, TCM reader, Stu Banham sent in a Question of the Week on air compressors.

This week’s Question of the Week was, “Where do you mount your air compressor?”  In addition, we asked about the make and model of air compressor folks have, and why they needed an air compressor for their truck camping lifestyle.

“I do have a Firestone air compressor that’s primarily used to inflate and deflate my air bag suspension.  However, I can also use a quick disconnect to inflate tires if needed.  It’s mounted on the underside of the truck behind the in-floor storage compartment.” – Rick Guffey, 2012 Ram 2500, 2013 Hallmark Everest

Air Compressor Accutire“I have an Accutire MS-5530 purchased from Amazon for $15.  It is stored in the bin under the rear seat in the cab of the truck.  The main purpose of the compressor is to adjust the pressure of my Air Lift helper springs, but I occasionally adjust tire pressures also.  It does a great job with the Air Lifts but is very, very slow for the tires.  Storage space and weight are at a premium and this little compressor fits its niche just fine and keeps it simple.” – Gary Scott, 2015 Toyota Tacoma, 2014 Four Wheel Camper Eagle

“We usually keep the compressor right on the back floor of the truck near the door so that it can be easily obtained.  Just recently I purchased a 5-in-1 portable power pack from Harbor Freight Tools.  Our biggest concern is to keep our airbags inflated properly for wherever we may be traveling.  We have also tried riding the sandy beaches and it’s always wise to have a compressor where air pumps are not available.” – Richard Luczynski, 2015 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, 2015 Lance 1050S

“My compressor is a 12-volt compressor and it’s under the back seat of my pickup.  The compressor is sold under various brand names.  I bought mine at Harbor Freight.  It’s Harbor Freight item # 61788, a 12V air compressor, 100psi max pressure with 0.88cfm volume rating.  I paid $30.  I haven’t had to use it yet, but it seems better built than any 12V compressor I’ve owned before.  I learned about it in NATCOA or LOA forums, where it was highly recommended.” – Philip Tron, 2009 Chevy 3500, 2012 Lance 1050

“I have a VIAIR continuous duty compressor with a 5 gallon tank mounted in the right rear storage area.  I use it for impact tools and to air up tires.” – Stephen O’Neal, 2013 Chevy 3500, 2011 Alaskan 11-foot

AAA air compressor“I only carry a small DC compressor that fits in about any drawer.  I don’t air the truck tires up or down often, so I only keep it for filling bike tires and for emergency situations.  I have had to use it several times to air up trailer tires and ATV tires that have slow leaks.  It works well for that.  The model I have is a LifeLine AAA 300 PSI 12-volt DC air compressor.” – Jason Haymore, 2004 Ford F350, 1968 Telescopic Siesta

“I have an Extreme Outback Extremeaire High Output compressor permanently mounted just to the right of the door on the floor of the camper.  There is a place under the roll over couch that provides the perfect place for it.  It is wired directly to the camper batteries and I installed a switch.

It’s not a cheap compressor, but it can run continuously when needed and fills the four tires back up quickly – about 3 to 5 minutes each.  I need the compressor because I like to drive on roads where airing down makes for a much smoother ride.” – Kevin MacAfee, 2012 Toyota Tacoma, 2012 Four Wheel Camper Eagle

VIAIR 300P Portable Air Compressor“I have a VIAIR Model 300P which is a portable air compressor kit designed for 33-inch tires.  This unit was specifically purchased for our off-road adventures with our Jeep.

As described in the article, in most cases we will air down our tires when venturing out on an off-road trail.  Although consideration was given to a permanent mount, it was decided to use the portable unit.  Owning three vehicles, I didn’t want to commit to the Jeep only, but felt there was a need to have availability for the truck when traveling.  There isn’t a need to deflate the truck tires, but one can find a nail or screw in the road which may cause a problem.

I also need to check the air in the Air Lift suspension air bags on the truck.  In most cases the pressure will have to be corrected every thirty days when traveling with the camper.  The flexibility of a portable compressor is fully justified when traveling with multiple vehicles.” – Warne Todd, 2000 Ford F250, 2005 Lance 981 Max

Slime air compressor 40026“I carry a Slime 40026 2X Heavy Duty air compressor.  I used to carry a cheap unit that came free with a set of jack stands, but you get what you pay for.  This one isn’t expensive as far as these things go (it was about $65 on Amazon), but it is much heavier duty than my previous one.

It is a double-pumper (it has two pistons) so the inflation rate is higher than my old one.  In tests at home, it inflated my tires from 85 psi (where I have them when the camper is not on the truck) to 110 psi (for the camper) in less than four minutes.  I don’t believe my old air compressor could have done that.

It also inflates fast enough to have let me limp 100 miles on the Dalton Highway with a screw in a tire (so I could get to a tire repair shop).  This not only saved changing a tire for me, but getting to my spare would have involved taking the camper off as well.  I use airbags as well and this lets me inflate quickly.

I have found the integral gauge to be accurate when compared with my hand-held gauge.  My only complaint is that it has the screw-on type of valve connector.  This is fine with the tires, but the airbags have so little volume that the time it takes to remove the connector looses significant air.  I am going to try using a high-quality locking chuck (Silca) this summer to see how it works.  The air pump comes in a case that I put behind my seat in the cab.” – Steve Merrill, 2009 Chevy Silverado 3500, 2007 Lance 992

“We have a portable compressor.  It is a Smittybilt that came from 4-Wheel Parts.  I have it in case I need to air tires up during a trip.” – Michael Suan, 2008 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD, 2010 Lance 830

CampBell Hausfeld air compressor“My air compressor is carried under the back seat of my truck.  My compressor is a Campbell Hausfeld model RP30001AV.  I have it for general tire inflation when I’m not at home or around a service station when airing back up after taking the unit of road onto the beach.  I live in Florida and there are a lot of beaches that you can access for camping.” – Michael Davis, 2016 Dodge Ram 3500, 2016 CampLite 8.6

“The compressor is mounted behind the front left wheel well, between the frame rail and the body – sort of below the driver’s left foot.  The air intake hoses are routed to the engine compartment just under the wiper blades so that water and dust doesn’t get sucked into the compressor.  Aft of the compressor is a manifold for connections to ARB locking differentials (that I have yet to install), then a two-gallon air tank, and lastly a bracket with a Milton V-Style air hose quick connect installed just behind the driver’s running board.

The compressor is a ARB CKMTA12 which pumps enough air to take my four 33×12.5 off-road tires from 25 to 45 psi in about six minutes (with assist from my daughter and a four-tire hose kit – inflate or deflate all four tires at once).

I like to camp in remote spots and having properly inflated (actually deflated) tires is essential in getting back with minimal fuss and maximum comfort.  I have not really seen the need to upgrade to the locking differentials yet.  Just having the right air pressure makes traction so much better.  Having the fill be so quick and easy removes the decision of “is this road bad enough that I need to air-down”?  Just do it and the ride will be more comfortable even if the traction wasn’t really needed.” – Beachley Main, 1999 Ford F250, Looking for a used FWC Grandby

ARB 12-volt twin air compressor“The ARB 12-volt twin air compressor (CKMTA12) is a fantastic small and powerful compressor.  You can mount it under the hood or in a storage compartment.  I have one in the Jeep and one in the camper.  ARB also makes a portable version, the CKMTP12, that can be moved between different vehicles.

Portable ARB air compressorThis is a 100% duty cycle compressor, so you won’t have to stop after 15 minutes to let the compressor cool down.  If you have ever used a small 12-volt compressor, this is a very important feature.  Some of the small 12V compressors can get so hot that you have to wait for them to cool down before storing them back in your vehicle.  We do a lot of Jeeping and it’s not uncommon for us to have to air down and air up once or twice a day.” – Rex Carroll

“As silly as it may seem, I actually have three air compressors each with a specific job!

I have one small compressor, mounted in the engine compartment.  That is dedicated to the exhaust brake and supplies air to restrict the exhaust and slows me down at any speed above 20mph.

Another, mounted below my truck bed, is an automatic air inflation unit for my rear axle air bags.  This works great, and constantly inflates/deflates the air bags depending on the current conditions like temperature, elevation, etc.

The third one, carried in the back storage compartment of my Chalet, I built from scratch.  This is a continuous duty air compressor, with two gallon air tank and a 30-foot hose reel.  This is used to fill my truck or scooter tires when needed.  I use all of these compressors every time I travel and wouldn’t leave home without them!” – Charles Coushaine, 2001 Ford F350, 2012 Chalet DS116RB

“A lot of people mount their compressors in the engine compartment.  In spite of the size of my rig, the engine compartment is already stuffed.  Also, a lot of people mount them under the chassis.  I have plenty of room to do this, but it’s constantly exposed to the elements down there, so I decided against that.

Instead I have a large capacity portable compressor from Smittybilt that’s designed to air up large tires.  I keep it in a bag with the deflators, patch kit, and other recovery gear.  I originally planned to bring along an air tank to run power tools, but now I use cordless electrics.” – Steve Timmings, 2003 Ford F350 Super Duty, 2013 Four Wheel Camper Hawk SC

“I have it mounted in the cab with a five pound CO2 canister with gauges.  For me, CO2 is easier and faster.  I have the CO2 for airing up and down when needed.  Of course they’re for helping others that need air too.” – Roger Redmond, 2009 Ford F250 Super Duty, 2015 Four Wheel Camper Hawk

VIAIR 40047 400P RV air compressor“I have a portable air compressor, the VIAIR 40047 400P-RV automatic portable compressor kit.  It sits in the cab on the back seat.  Check it out on Amazon.  There’s a high rating and lots of accessories included.  Like Mikeee says, “You can’t be too prepared!” – Gary Usher, 2015 Ford F350, 2015 Lance 1172

“Our air compressor and small receiver tank are mounted on the chassis about midship.  They fit neatly beside the chassis member up next to the floor.  Originally, it was piped to the air shocks.  I have added lines to each side of the truck and mounted air quick connections to each running board.  I can now air up my tires with a short coiled air hose.” – Mike and Paula Bostic, 1999 Ford F350, 2012 Chalet S95R

“My air compressor is under the hood.  Air Lift is the make, and the model is HD.  I use the on board air compressor to inflate my air bags.  This is all accomplished from the driver’s seat.  I can inflate or deflate with the push of a button.  I also can control the left or right side independently.

Future plans call for an air storage tank along with quick disconnect for an air hose.  A small Craftsman 12-volt is now used to inflate the tires.  It is stored behind the front seat.” – Lucien Langlois, 2012 Ford F-250 Super Duty

Pancake Air Compressor Bostitch BTFP02012 6-Gallon“I removed the back seat.  The compressor and tool box go behind driver’s side and the dog and two folding rocker chairs are on the other half of the back seat.  I have a Stanley Bostitch 150psi 20scfm at 90psi six gallon pancake tank.  I have air bags on the truck and check tire pressure regularly during or travels.” – C Ramsey, 2012 Chevy 3500, 2014 Adventurer 116DS

“I have a 12-volt Viair continuous duty compressor mounted in one of the under bed boxes.  I use it for airing tires after simple flat fixes and for airing up after running sand.  I was at Assateague Island National Seashore this week and beach road was open.  I got excited until I was told it took a permit and the only option was a $90 annual fee.  That was too much for a one day trip.” – Ron Niemann, 2014 Ford F350 Super Duty, 1973 Alaskan non-cabover w/flatbed mod

“I have a cheap Harbor freight $10 model that I keep in a compartment inside the camper.  It’s a 12-volt compressor.  It works.  You just have to take your time.” – Jim Dailey, 2005 Ram 2500, 1997 Shadow Cruiser 10

VIAIR 450P Automatic Function Portable Air Compressor“We carry a portable VIAIR 450P-A automatic 100% duty cycle compressor.  A twelve gallon holding tank with three air ports is installed under the truck and the portable compressor is used to charge it up to 120 PSI.  This gives us on-board air for the air horns and for airing up tires, etc.

Since the compressor is not mounted to the truck, it is available to take it wherever the need arises.  I would never think of traveling without having some type of compressed air capability.” – Jon Hancock, 2016 Ram 3500, 2016 Northern Lite 10-2EX CDSE

“I had one on my previous truck and plan on getting one on my new truck.  I will use the Firestone big boy compressor along with the air bags.  These compressors install under the truck, so it’s out of the way.

One thing that I would make a required option is a kill switch.  The compressor starts to bring the cylinder up to pressure as soon as the engine starts.  Like generators, the compressor is noisy and if you leave at 6:00am, you’ll probably get some shoes – or worse – thrown at you.  A kill switch turns it off until you get on the road.

I used the compressor for filling my buggy tires and blowing/cleaning dust off clothes/buggy and anything else that gets in the way.  I like them.” – Frank Poole, 2016 Ram 5500HD, 2016 Arctic Fox 990

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“I have a fixed compressor installed on the bottom right of the camper cell.  It’s model DJEBEL Line Gros Debit126 (156 l./min).  We always use it to change tire pressures depending on the type of tracks, roads, etc. in sand, mud, ice, rocks, etc.  I also use it to clean dust from the engine.  The rear bumper makes air tank reserve.” – Frederic Amorós, 2011 Toyota Hilux, 2011 PSI-Azalaï Fixed Cell (France)

“We carry our compressor in our enclosed trailer.  It can also be stored on the roof rack of our camper or in the back seat of the truck if we don’t have the trailer.

We use a PowerTank – which is a compressed CO2 tank.  We first started using PowerTanks with our Jeeps to quickly air up our 35 to 37-inch tires.  We found that an air compressor can take fifteen or so minutes to do the job a PowerTank can do in three to four minutes.

We use our PowerTank now for our truck’s air bags (they tend to lose air with time) and our RZR tires.  PowerTanks are pricy, but with some ingenuity and some searching, a five to ten pound CO2 tank with a regulator and air hose can be found for less money.

A fire extinguisher maintenance company is our source for the compressed CO2.  Some 4×4 shops will also sell and fill the tanks, but they are usually much more expensive.” – Tracy Schuster, 2015 GMC 3500, 2012 Lance 992

“We live in Australia.  We have a small portable compressor, so storage is not an issue.  We have it behind the passenger’s seat on the floor.

When we got our Lance Camper last year, we put an extra axle on the back and replaced the original back springs with air bags.  We use the compressor to adjust the air pressure on the back air bags, when we load or unload our camper.  The main advantage with the air compressor is to adjust the air pressure to suit the load, with or without the camper.  So our ride is never rough.” – Rosemary Doherty, 2007 VW Transporter, 2015 Lance 825

“I carry a Honda EU2000i and air compressor in the tool box in the pickup bed.  My tires require 110 PSI, so a small hand held compressor is not capable of such high pressure.” – Paul Roberson, 2014 Ford F350, 1988 Lance 980

“I mounted a receiver on the front of the truck and use a homemade compressor with a small gasoline engine to air up when needed.” – Ted Belhumeur, 2010 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, 2012 Northern Lite 8-11

“Good topic!  I keep a 12volt Interdynamics TruckAir 275 portable air compressor in a container on the back seat of the truck.  It is about 12L” x 9H x 4W.  It has a 14′ power cord so that I can get around easy enough to each tire.  Its air gauge keeps track of tire pressure, and it’s fan cooled to keep it from getting too hot.  I bought it about 15 or more years ago from JC Whitney and I doubt it’s still available new.

A small portable air compressor is okay for roadside emergencies where you have to fill one tire.  You’d be better to know the locations of the local air stations once you come off the beach.  When you have to fill your tires up to as much as 80 pounds, it takes a while.

I’m looking forward to reading what other compressors folks have, either portable or mounted permanently under the hood.” – Jack Pavie, 1995Ford F350, 1987 Real Lite 950

“I don’t have a permanently mounted air compressor.  Instead, I use a portable 12VDC air compressor I purchased at Camping World.  It is an Airtight brand made by the Wilmar Corp part #60404.  I am not very happy with it since the power cord isn’t long enough to reach my rear dual wheels.  I purchased it just to be able to inflate/adjust pressures when not near a gas station or truck stop.  I have never done any beach driving so there has been no need for me to air down.  I’m thinking about getting a Viair 40047 400p-RV portable system designed for RVs that has a long chuck designed for dual rear wheels with a long extension hose.” – Hugh Redmon, 1997 Ford F350, 1998 Lance 990

“I keep it on the frame, under the driver, with the skid plate.  I have an Extreme Outback Magnum continuous duty air compressor with quick connects in the front and rear bumpers.  I have a need to air tires down and back up for a more comfortable off-roading experience and for sand.  This is the ultimate compressor set up by Adventure Trailers in Prescott and it works flawlessly.” – Dennis Umshler, 2015 Ram 3500, FWC Grandby flatbed

“I have a portable unit that’s under the seat of my truck unless I’m towing my Jeep.  Then, it’s powered by the Jeep motor.  I have a York AC compressor converted for onboard air at 100 pounds of pressure and a storage tank of 20 pounds.” – Chip Fraser, 2013 Chevy 2500 HD, 2015 Arctic Fox 865

“I keep my air compressor under the backseat.  It is a Harbor Freight item with 120psi max. I  have only used it once.  The tire monitor said that I had a low tire pressure.  It only took a few minutes.  I really didn’t think I would ever need it, but I am a firm believer that it is a necessary tool to have when traveling.” – Charlie Young, Chevy 2500hd, Riverside 865

“The air compressor is one of the things that got left behind when we downsized from a fifth wheel to a truck camper.  We carry a full size spare for the truck and a small hand pump for bicycles and the inflatable boat.  We have various air compressors of differing sizes on the farm.” – Tricia Mason, 2009 Ford F350, 2008 Montana Ponderosa

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“I picked up this little Goodyear i8000 from Goodwill for $7.50.  I’m not really sure who sells it, but I got the pump to push out 110 psi on a test.  I picked it up to use for the rear airbags if needed.  It is new to me so I have yet to use it.  I’m a little skeptical that it will put 85 psi in my F250 tires, but at least I got something on board as opposed to the alternate, nothing.” – Ben Hansen, 2002 Ford F250, 2005 Lance 981

“Let’s start with 120 volt AC air compressors.  Version 1 has no storage tank and is what I own.  You will need a generator of some sort to power it up.

Pros: Has a smaller foot print so it takes up less storage space.

Cons: Will take a bit longer to fill a tire because you have no storage tank.

Version 2 has a storage tank and can look like a pancake or a torpedo style of storage tank.  You will need a generator of some sorts to power it up.

Pros: Will fill up the first tire faster because of the storage tank, but once that storage tank has been drained, you have an air compressor just like mine.

Cons: Generally has a larger foot print thus needing a larger storage space.

Then, there’s portable 12-volt DC air compressors.  In 2003 or 2004, when I was looking at compressor options, the 12-volt DC compressors just did not have the SCFM (Standard Cubic Feet per Minute) to fill up a tire to 80 PSI in a fairly decent length of time.  So I took the 12-volt option out of consideration.  Also it helped that I had an on board generator on my 2001 Lance 1121.  I do not know when 12-volt air compressors started getting better, but a few beach friends of mine now own 12-volt DC units and they are now very powerful.

Pros: Very small foot print and easy to store, and can use your truck’s 12-volt DC system to power up this compressor.

Cons: The cost of purchasing a 12-volt compressor can run in the hundreds of dollars.

Note that there are larger 12-volt DC compressors that can bolt to the frame rail of your truck with a storage tank.  You have to run battery cables to power them up but you are talking in the $600 to $800 or more dollar range.

The most important part of purchasing a compressor is the SCFM per minute.  The higher the rating, the faster you can pump up a tire.

On some compressors, like mine, you will have twin ratings.  I do not have access to my compressor at the moment, so I will have to give you my best estimate on the ratings.  Up to 40 PSI, my compressor has a SCFM rating of 4.2.  Over 40 PSI, my compressor has a SCFM rating of 2.9.” – Mike Tassinari

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2016 Massachusetts NorthEast Jamboree Events Announced

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The Wales, Massachusetts NorthEast Truck Camping Jamboree will be held from Thursday, May 12th until Sunday, May 15, 2016 at the Oak Haven Family Campground in Wales, Massachusetts.

Here is the general schedule for this year’s rally.  More specific details can be found in the PDF Calendar of Events.

Thursday May 12, 2016
2pm-4pm – Registration
6pm – Dessert Buffet and Fire Ring

Friday May 13, 2016
8-10am – Registration and Coffee
Brimfield Flea Market Time
3pm – Craft Project – Day 1
3-4pm – Registration

4pm – Clam Choudaaaaa preparation
6pm – Hamburgers and Clam Choudaaaaa
7:30pm – Fire Ring

Saturday May 14, 2016
8-10am – Registration and Coffee
10am – Craft Project – Day 2
11am – Gun Safety
1:30pm – Card Craft
3pm – BINGO with a twist
5:30pm – Buffet Dinner, bring a dish
8pm – Fire Ring

Sunday May 15, 2016
8:00-9:00am – Breakfast

Attendees can reserve a campsite by calling The Oak Haven Family Campground.  For a listing of all 2016 truck camper rallies, click here.

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Ford Tests 2017 Super Duty For Truck Campers

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In a new video, Ford engineers smoke the tires testing the highly-anticipated aluminum-bodied 2017 Ford F350 Super Duty using a 5,000 pound welded-steel truck camper simulator.  Roll Stability Control to the rescue.

2017 Ford Super Duty Truck Test

Early yesterday morning Truck Camper Magazine was contacted by Ford Motor Company about tests involving an all-new 2017 Ford Super Duty truck and a custom-built 5,000 pound truck camper simulator.

The tests involved loading the 5,000 pound truck camper simulator and driving the resulting rig through a series of slow and high-speed lane changes and slaloms.  At one point during the resulting video, the Ford team literally smokes the tires as they push the new Super Duty to its limits.

Here is the Ford Motor Company video:

After reviewing the Ford video, photography, and supplied information, we requested an interview with a Ford engineer to answer additional questions on the truck, simulator, and test.  Ford put us through to Scott Brack, Senior Development Engineer at Ford Motor Company.

TCM: The truck in the test appears to be a 2017 Ford F350.  Can you tell us more about the specifics of this truck?

Scott: The truck in the test video was a 2017 Ford F350 XLT, crew cab, dually with a 6.7L Power Stroke diesel engine, and four-wheel drive.  We test with multiple rear axle ratios, but I don’t know the rear axle ratio for the test truck.

For the test, we added the Camper Package which includes higher spring rate in the front, a rear stabilizer bar, and a rear auxiliary spring.

Ford Roll Control Test Rig

TCM: Other than the Camper Package, was the truck suspension 100% stock for the test?

Scott: There was no extra suspension added to the truck.

Ford-Test-Simulator-Wide-1

TCM: Can you tell us about the custom made truck camper simulator, and how it was built to weigh up to 7,500 pounds?

Scott: Without the rear tail section and without added weights, the slide-in simulator weighs 2,500 pounds.  To increase the weight to 4,000 pounds, we can add rear tail section weights and add upper cab weights.

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To increase the weight to 6,000 pounds or more, we can add up to two 1,000 pound center weights, and a platform weight above the cab of the truck.  The platform adds a lot of weight to the structure.

Ford-Test-Simulator-Inside-Bed

The center weights go into the box of the truck on what looks like an Erector Set of steel tubes.  If completely loaded, the slide-in simulator can weigh 7,500 pounds.

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TCM: From your description, the simulator wasn’t 7,500 pounds in the video.

Scott: It was not at 7,500 pounds during the video.  We were testing a crew cab model, so the simulator in the test was 5,000 pounds.  The regular cab models have the most payload.

TCM: How did you load and attach the slide-in simulator to the truck?

Scott: We used an overhead crane to load the simulator into the truck.  Once loaded, we bolted it to the bed of the truck using bed bolts.

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TCM: Where is the center of gravity on the truck with the loaded simulator?

Scott: For the test, the center of gravity was between 42 and 43 inches high from the ground.

When I’m running center of gravity testing, I’ll first test the vehicle on its own, and then a combination of the vehicle and the simulator.  We also have a simulator on a test rig in Dearborn.  I can remove the truck from the camper to get the camper’s center of gravity, but I don’t have that information in front of me.

Ford Truck Roll over stability control

TCM: What is Roll Stability Control?

This question was answered by Ford’s Roll Stability Control team:

Roll Stability Control (RSC) is an active safety system for passenger vehicles. It uses a roll rate sensor together with the information from the conventional electronic stability control hardware to detect a vehicle’s roll condition associated with a potential rollover and uses the correct brake control and engine torque reduction in response to the detected roll condition in order to mitigate a rollover.

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TCM: Is Roll Stability Control standard in all Super Duty trucks, or an option?

Scott: Roll Stability Control is standard on the 2017 Ford Super Duty trucks.

Ford Truck Test Course

TCM: What data was collected during the test?

Scott: We conducted emergency lane changes and made sure the truck was controllable.  We also take the truck to the point where it’s no longer controlled to make sure it gives you fair warning prior stability control coming on, and wheel lift.

Ford Truck Camper Simulator

TCM: Has Ford Motor Company conducted slide-in camper tests in the past?

Scott: I was personally involved in building a slide-in simulator for the F150 and F250 light duty trucks in 1993.  That simulator was built out of aluminum.

In the early 2000s, we built the Super Duty version that we have in Arizona right now.  The simulator for the Super Duty trucks is steel.  We have another simulator in Dearborn.

TCM: Why not use a Ford Truck Camper for your tests?  For example, the Ford 11S slide-out model?

Scott: We used to do the tests using actual slide-in campers, but we were destroying the campers because of how much testing we were doing.  So, we built the simulators to mimic the inertia properties and mass of the truck campers.  Now, using the test simulators, we aren’t tearing apart campers.  Every year we have used the simulators test the new trucks.

Ford Test Driver

TCM: Who drove the actual course?

Scott: Truck and SUV Developmental Engineer, Jason Wroblewski, drove for this test and video.

driving a Ford truck camper simulator

TCM: When will the payload capacity of the 2017 Ford Super Duty be announced?

Scott: We do not have a specific date at this time.

TCM: Has Ford released the bed and cab dimensions for the new Super Duty?  Rail height?  Cab height?  Any special angles or curves in the bed?  This information is extremely important to customers and manufacturers.

Scott: The interior bed dimensions did not change.  The long bed trucks have the same width and length.  The other information will be available soon.

TCM: For readers who are chomping at the bit to buy a 2017 Ford Super Duty, when will they be available at Ford dealerships?

Scott: The 2017 Super Duty will be available later this year.

 

We will follow up with Ford Motor Company when the GVWR, payload information, and other final details are announced for the 2017 Ford Super Duty series.

In the meantime, additional 2017 Ford Super Duty information is available on the Ford website: https://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/2017/#

 

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Two Truck Camper Rallies This Week

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The North-East Jamboree in Wales, Massachusetts and the LOA Lone Pine Rally in Lone Pine, California are happening this weekend.

May 12 – 15, 2016
North-East Truck Camping Jamboree
Oak Haven Family Campground, Wales, Massachusetts
10% off the posted 2016 daily rate
The world famous Brimfield Flee Market in Brimfield, Massachusetts is also this weekend and is only a few miles from the campground.
Organizers: Geraldine Roy and David Snow

May 12 – 15, 2016
2nd Annual Lone Pine Rally 2016 “The Big 26”
Boulder Creek RV Resort, Lone Pine, California
Organizer: Randy
*Sold out. Call the campground for availability.

Starting the weekend of May 20th is Overland Expo West and Holiday RV’s Open House.  For a full listing of upcoming events, visit our RV Shows and Rallies page.

 

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Fuel Additives for Truck Camper Trucks

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Our second truck camping truck was a 1998 Ram 3500 12-valve Cummins diesel.  We purchased the Ram diesel truck in 2007 for the express purpose of converting it to run on vegetable oil.

That experiment worked well in the short run, but proved to be a mistake in the long run.  The vegetable oil was very difficult to source and had a bad habit of stressing various components of the engine.  About a year after the conversion, we abandoned the dream of driving on grease, tied off the system, and went back to diesel.

In the five years that followed, we took that truck to some of the most experienced diesel mechanics in the United States for advice on how to properly care for it.  After scolding us on the grease conversion, they helped us bring the 12-valve Cummins back to full strength.

One of the suggested diesel care tips we heard time and time again from experienced mechanics was the use of various diesel additives.  Specifically, there were diesel fuel additives to boost cetane levels and clean injectors, and diesel tank additives to prevent algae growth when the truck was sitting.

Per the advice we received, we always filled our diesel tank and added an algae defeating additive before storing our truck for the winter.  We also made sure to drive the truck at least once every 7-10 days when temperatures dropped below freezing.  This routine worked well helping to keep the truck going through the winter, and preventing algae growth.

We also used various fuel tank additives for cleaning the engine when we were traveling.  We did not have a preferred additive brand or type and likely put a half-dozen varieties in the tank over the years.  We also didn’t track fuel mileage or performance as our goal was to just keep the engine running properly.

In the end, the diesel engine required more routine maintenance and repairs than we cared to endure.  Had we been skilled in diesel service, or interested in learning diesel service, the truck would have been perfect.  As a couple living in a HOA community that would not allow such activities, and having a growing magazine to run, it was time to sell the truck.  In 2012, the truck went to a very excited young mechanic who knew exactly what he was getting into, and couldn’t believe his luck.  Neither could we.

Obviously, a newer diesel truck that wasn’t once tortured with a grease conversion would not have such a sorry story to tell.  In general, newer diesel trucks run more efficiently, more reliably, and quieter than older diesel trucks.  Then again, they can cost $60,000 or more.  As they say, not everything new is better.

This week’s Question of the Week harks back to the issue of fuel additives.  Charlie Coushaine, a diesel truck owner himself, sent in the following:

“We have an older 2001 Ford F350 diesel designed for diesel fuel that had sulfur embedded for lubrication.  However, based on new environmental regulations for fuel, the sulfur has been removed and corn oil, up to 20%, has been added.  Neither of these makes my engine run better, or quieter.  What do others with older diesel engines use as an additive to keep their engines running clean and quiet?”

We are going to open this question up a little further to include as many truck owners as possible.  This week’s Question of the Week is, “Do you use a fuel additive for your truck camping truck?”

Owners of older trucks, newer trucks, diesel trucks, and gas trucks can answer.  Just make sure to include an exact description of your truck and engine with your answer.

As a side note, we have written extensively about our personal preference for gas trucks.  For those of us who do not tow heavy toys or trailers, or insist on blasting up mountains at top speed, there are many well researched reasons (aka your wallet) to consider a gas truck. We love ours.

Click here to read the 84 reader recommendations and responses about fuel additives.

 

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